Remember the way I tried to pay for the Estate? Given that economic
favours are 1 shiny right now, o. could generate as many favours as e
wanted if e got rid of eir shinies (e would be the earliest player to
register w/ 0 shinies). E could, of course, do that for other people
via contract if e got the other 0-shiny people out of the way.

Way that I promised CB to keep secret is obvious, but still secret.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Trying to get infinite stuff has a good history if it's legal go for it,
> there's several rulings that may stop that kind of thing but you
> never know.
>
> The shinies system was broken in subtle ways, but some big
> systems have big loopholes from the start we just shrug and reset,
> better now then after we've invested time in it - I did something like
> that at least once.
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
>> You know I actually have a completely legal way that may well work and
>> be able to get infinite favours.
>>
>> It would be unethical to do it (I promised Cuddlebeam to keep it
>> secret) but wouldn't it be funny if I did it?
>>
>> (The answer to that question is no, rada. it wouldn't)
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> > Pledges aren't a currency and I doubt anyone would support a fine like 
>> > that.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2017-11-23 11:02, VJ Rada wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The rule is pretty broken though tbh. Imagine if Alexis had decided to
>> >> fine me 2 pledges (which are an asset). Are 2 pledges between 1 shiny
>> >> and 3,000 favours?
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> And it's not even REMOTELY impossible to tell the relative value, you did
>> >>> so
>> >>> yourself earlier to say 3000 favours was more than 25 shinies!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 2017-11-23 10:54, VJ Rada wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Arguments: Blue Cards states "The person issuing a Blue Card must, in
>> >>>> the same message, announce a penalty between 1 shiny and the greater
>> >>>> of 25 shinies and the amount the bad sport profited from the
>> >>>> infraction,". It is impossible to tell whether a penalty is between an
>> >>>> amount in shinies and an amount not in shinies. The rule would be
>> >>>> incredibly hard to apply should non-shiny penalties apply, so the best
>> >>>> interests of the game combine with the rule's context to mandate
>> >>>> shinies-only penalties.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "E CAN additionally, in the same message, determine the distribution
>> >>>> of the money between Agora and the players(s) harmed"
>> >>>> This rule consistently uses the word "money". A synonym of "money" is
>> >>>> "currency". Shinies are a currency, favours are not.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Aris Merchant
>> >>>> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I favor this CFJ, and can judge it immediately.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> -Aris
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 3:49 PM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Good, I'm glad o. This Blue Card is legal, but the penalty is not
>> >>>>>> effective. I call an urgent CFJ with the statement: A blue card can
>> >>>>>> only have a penalty imposed in shinies.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Alexis and PSS are and should be obviously disqualified...I bar
>> >>>>>> Telnaior.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:47 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I, as ADoP, initiate an election for Referee, as the office is now
>> >>>>>>>> interim.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 11/22/2017 12:49 AM, VJ Rada wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I award myself 3,000 justice favours for successfully pointing
>> >>>>>>>>> 3,000
>> >>>>>>>>> fingers. I resign as referee. I intend to call in the pledge, with
>> >>>>>>>>> agoran consent, that states "I pledge to not point fingers" (or
>> >>>>>>>>> similar)
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I stand for election. I may have a campaign proposal later on.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -o
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>   From V.J. Rada
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>



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