On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:25 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
<agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 8:43 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> agora-discussion <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:37 AM Rebecca via agora-discussion
> > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 1:35 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
> > > agora-discussion <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM nch via agora-discussion
> > > > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 12:41:14 AM CDT Aris Merchant via
> > > > agora-business
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I submit the following proposal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Aris
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Title: Certifiable Patches
> > > > > > Adoption index: 1.0
> > > > > > Author: Aris
> > > > > > Co-author(s):
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Enact a new power 1.0 rule, entitled "Certifiable Patches", with the
> > > > > > following text:
> > > > > >   Any player CAN, by announcement, certify a specified proposal (as 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > patch), causing it to become pended.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   A player SHALL NOT certify a proposal unless its primary function
> > > > > >   is to rectify a bug, error, or ambiguity that relates 
> > > > > > substantially
> > > > > >   to a) an office e holds; or b) a CFJ, open within the last week, 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > >   which e is the judge. Certifying a proposal in violation of this
> > > > > >   paragraph is the Class-4 Crime of Uncertain Certification. A 
> > > > > > person
> > > > > >   certifying a proposal SHOULD explain why doing so does not violate
> > > > > >   this paragraph.
> > > > >
> > > > > This seems like it'll cause a lot of CFJs and uncertainty.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > nch
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Could you elaborate on this? As I see it, there would be no reason for
> > > > more CFJs to occur under this rule.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There would be regular CFJs about what relates to rectifying, etc etc.
> > > Referee doesn't have full discretion on these things, e can be overruled 
> > > by
> > > CFJ.
> > >
> > > --
> > > From R. Lee
> >
> > That makes sense, but my reading of the rules — which, if I recall
> > correctly G. has also stated — is that only a fine can be questioned
> > by CFJ not a finding of shenanigans. I can say that my general
> > standard would be to err on the side of leniency unless it is clear
> > that others have strong feelings to the contrary. In general, my
> > assumption was that we would be reasonably agreable on these matters.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:38 AM nch via agora-discussion
> > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:34:29 AM CDT you wrote:
> > > > Could you elaborate on this? As I see it, there would be no reason for
> > > > more CFJs to occur under this rule.
> > >
> > > How is "primary function" determined? Is G's complete rewrite of the 
> > > auction
> > > rule primarily a bug fix?
> > >
> > > --
> > > nch
> > >
> >
> > Based off of the phrasing of the rule, I think it would be a bug fix
> > because it isn't more specific.  I think it might be better if we
> > said, "minimally rectify", to make it clear that it only applied to
> > the minimal change necessary.
>
> What do y'all think of this proto?
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Title: Certifiable Patches
> Adoption index: 1.0
> Author: Aris
> Co-author(s): nch, P.S.S.
>
>
> [This may be over-clear, but should be CFJ proof.]
>

This looks good to me. Possibly a bit over-clear, but we probably need
that at first and can rectify later if we want.

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