On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM James Cook via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > In general, defining one method for doing something excludes > "unregulated" > > methods from working, but doesn't exclude other regulated methods in the > > rules from working. > > > > For example, saying (under certain conditions) that the Herald CAN award > > Champion by announcement (Rule 2449) doesn't prevent the Herald from > > awarding Champion using the generic w/2 Agoran Consent method for patent > > titles (R649). > > > > The wording I used was "A player CAN win the game, but it will cost em > 100 > > barrels." which could be read as "any time a player CAN win the game > > (under any win method) it will additionally cost em 100 barrels." Saying > > "A player CAN win the game by paying a fee of 100 barrels" doesn't stop > > other regulated methods in the rules from working independently (but it > > does put "win the game" into the "regulated" category which blocks wholly > > unregulated methods from succeeding). > > I don't understand how the first phrasing could give R2579 any more > force compared to the second phrasing. In both cases, the sole reason > R2579 comes into effect is because payment of a set of assets has been > associated with the action of winning the game. > > R2579 clearly says what *must* be done to perform a fee-based action. > It is not written as if it's designed to provide an additional method. > "To perform a fee-based action, an entity ... must ... indicate intent > to pay that fee" and later "Otherwise ... the action is not > performed". If another rule claims that it's possible to perform such > an action a different way, then the rules are in conflict. > > Responding to Jason re R2125: yes, R2125 implies the possibility of > multiple methods, but ultimately, it defers to the body of law (i.e. > other rules): "that body of law prevents the action from being > performed except as described within it". The "including by limiting > the methods" part is in addition to that. This all presumes that the fee-based action is winning the game, rather than winning the game by barrels. -Aris
