On 6/19/2020 7:06 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote:
> On 2020-06-19 19:44, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>> I think we need a free way of pending patch proposals. The voters appear to
>> agree with me. I know some prominent and respected voices disagree, but the
>> proposal passed, so clearly public sentiment presently favors something
>> along these lines.
>>
>> However, the mechanism I proposed might have been messy. There are
>> alternative ideas that would cause fewer CFJs. This gets a bit logistically
>> interesting though because it's preferable for any such mechanism to be a)
>> fast, and b) discourage abuse. Unfortunately, those things go against each
>> other. This is why I suggested a criminal mechanism, which punishes abuse
>> after the fact. The obvious alternative is a dependent action. 2 Agoran
>> Consent works pretty well as a cure to abuse of anything. It also takes 4
>> days, which is too long for patches IMO. That leaves with N support. The
>> problem with actions taken with N support is that you've gotta pick a value
>> of N that is high enough to stop a cabal of taking advantage of it and low
>> enough to be easily achievable. That being said, something like with 5
>> support backed by a SHOULD might do it.
>>
>> A final solution, which I'm tossing in mostly as a joke, would be to just
>> take the once a week limitation off my emergency pending powers.
>>
>> Or, of course, we could just repeal it. A repeal does remove the problem,
>> though at the cost of also removing a mechanism that we've collectively
>> agreed is a good idea.
>>
>> Thoughts?
> 
> I think it's good to have free patch proposals, but I don't really like 
> the huge penalty of the current version. I feel like a much more 
> balanced system would be a simple dependent action thing. Like someone 
> can make their proposal a patch with some support or without some 
> objections or both. There don't have to be restrictions on what patch 
> proposals are about as long as people agree that it's meant to fix 
> something. Maybe we can even exempt patch proposals from popularity and 
> rewards to make sure they're truly for the public good.

I would say w/o 3 objections at a guess.  The 4-day waiting time, during
which people are reading it with an eye to objection, is a great way to
catch bugs in any bugfix.

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