Martin, thank you for the quick reply. Great work on AKKA persistence, we 
are very likely to use it in production. So more questions might come to 
you later.

1 ---------
What do you mean " Eventsourced processors do not support command sourcing. 
"? In my case, I have two Eventsourced processors A, and B. A will deliver 
an event to a channel with B's actorRef so B can use that event "as a 
command" to generate subsequent events, so in A's receiveRecover method, 
i'm doing this:

 channel forward Deliver(Persistent(some_command_to_b), b_actor_ref)

In B's receiveCommand I have:

 case msg @ ConfirmablePersistent(e: SomeCommandToB, _, _) => 


Do you think this is problematic? Solution? 


2 ---------

Seems one channel message can be confirmed by multiple destination, can I 
do this:


channel forward Deliver(Persistent(payload1), actor_1_ref)

channel forward Deliver(Persistent(payload1), actor_2_ref)

channel forward Deliver(Persistent(payload1), actor_2_ref)


( why not: channel forward Deliver(Persistent(payload1), 
Set(actor_1_ref, actor_2_ref, actor_2_ref))
The same message will only be journaled once?

BTW, if we have to do:
channel forward Deliver(Persistent(payload1), actor_2_ref)

Why cannot we simple drop "Persistent" so we have:
channel forward Deliver(payload1, actor_2_ref)

Sorry if these questions are silly or don't make sense.

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:54:25 PM UTC+8, Martin Krasser wrote:
>
>  Hi dong,
>
> On 20.02.14 04:31, dong wrote:
>  
> I'm been playing with the new Akka persistence module, and have the 
> following questions that I hope to get answered. 
>
>  
>    1. The document says "If a processor emits more than one outbound 
>    message per inbound Persistent message it *must* use a separate 
>    channel for each outbound message to ensure that confirmations are 
> uniquely 
>    identifiable..."  Is this because that " p.withPayload(...) and 
>    Persistent(...) method reuse the current message's id, therefore if we 
>    call either method more than once, the processor will emit multiple 
>    messages with the same id? 
>
>   
> Yes, akka-persistence doesn't generate (and write) new sequence umbers for 
> outbound messages. Generating new sequence numbers for outbound messages 
> would make this usage rule obsolete but would significantly lower 
> throughput. We decided to go for higher throughput.
>
>   
>    1. I think this implies channels compare new message'd id with  the 
>    largest id ever seen and discard messages whose ids are smaller or equal 
> to 
>    the last id seen, do they? 
>
>   
> No, replayed messages contain information which channel destinations 
> confirmed their delivery. If a channel encounters a replayed message that 
> contains a confirmation with the same channel id, it ignores that message. 
> A confirmation is a persistent (processorId, sequenceNr, channelId) 
> 3-tuple, where (processorId, sequenceNr) identify the a persistent message.
>
>   
>    1. (I guess I should start reading the code.) 
>    2. Were channels designed to be used one-way or two-ways? If my 
>    previous guess about channel's id check mechanism is correct, channels 
>    should be one-way only. Just want to make sure I'v got it right. 
>
>   
> They are one-way.
>
>   
>    1. If one processor accepts persistence messages from multiple 
>    channels, to deal with potential re-deliverying of the same messages, I 
>    guess the processor should keep a 'last-seen-id' for each channel and do 
>    id-check, right? 
>
>   
> Only if you assume that messages cannot be lost. This is reasonable to 
> assume for local channel destinations but not for remote destinations.
>
>   
>    1. In a hello-persistence example I'm writing, I used a Casbah 
>    mongodb journal plugin (the author is nice btw), I randomly get 
> "Persistent 
>    commands not supported" error. Anyone knows what this imply, application 
>    logic error or it might be a journal plugin incomparability?  
>     
>   
> Seems you're sending Persistent messages to an Eventsourced processor. 
> Eventsourced processors do not support command sourcing. 
>
>   
>    1. Is there a way to customize message id generation logic? Say I want 
>    my id start from 1000000 and increment by rand()%3? 
>     
>   
> No.
>
>   Thank you :)
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