I know this will be viewed as heresy by some(many? ALL?), but I wish
Toyota/Honda would buy Alfa and let the Alfa engineers have their way and
introduce the Toyota/Honda reliability to the Marque.

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, ira kaufman <[email protected]> wrote:


From: ira kaufman <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing
To: "Robert" <[email protected]>
Cc: "alfa" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:10 AM


going on to the game it could have been.when ford bought jaguar after being
rebuffed by fiat.they poured a hell of a lot of money into the jag
product.well fiat couldnt stand having alfa being bought by america.you know
sometimes the italians can act like the french.but in the process of keeping
alfa out of unholy hands they've killed it off.as long as the home country
killed her its all right.once more i say what a pity.but philosophicly
speaking it may not be the space time in this place for such as alfa was.
--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Robert <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:25 AMeping alfa out of


> From: George Graves <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing
> To: "John Brase" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 3:21 PM
>
>
> Look, Alfa Romeo is just another global bland...er brand these days. The
heart
> and soul of the company was gutted from it when Fiat took over and decided
to
> base Alfas on Fiats and to go to FWD. I mean for Alfa Romeo to go from
being
a
> company that built products that were the best in the world in their day
(and
> the pre-war Ferrari in prestige, cost, and racing heritage) to being a
> re-badged Chrysler product, is quite a fall from grace. Fiat has mismanaged
> the company since they bought it - at least the Italian government left
Alfa
> alone (more or less) when they had the helm.

Two things have led to the demise of Alfa.

1- The Italian Government.

The Italian's government decision to increase employment by Alfa producing
cheap cars that competed with FIAT in the early 70s. They may even be
responsible for the rusty metal, problem depending on what you read.

2- Anything designed under Rudolf  Hruska.

The Alfetta and Alfa Sud pretty much destroyed Alfa's reputation in the 70's.


The ARNA didn't help either!

In 1986 even BMW ran away from buying Alfa because there was nothing. These
are the same people who later bought Rover.

Also, Alfa was going front wheel drive before FIAT's purchase. The 164 was
designed prior to the acquisition of FIAT. Lets not forget the Sud was front
wheel drive also.

Robert
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