yes thats also true more or less.but the whole thing is the could have been game.hey if ford had moved to italy the ford execs could have thrown there ugli banal standard ties away and put on silk white ones.that would have been a perk.also let there hair a bit longer.think i've gone far enough with this. --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Robert <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing To: "ira kaufman" <[email protected]> Cc: "alfa" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 6:58 PM My understanding is Ford wasn't exactly buying Alfa for its cars but for its plants. Also, there was a former FIAT manager that had recently moved to Ford so that made it personal. The last thing FIAT wanted was a mass producer like Ford in its backyard. As for Ford buying Alfa? Who knows. Alfa could have ended up like Jaguar, and use Ford's platforms and engines. Maybe it would have ended up like Ford's purchase of Ghia. Just a name used on higher end models. Lets not forgot the large difference in Ford's offer for Jaguar compared to Alfa. Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: ira kaufman To: Robert Cc: alfa Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing going on to the game it could have been.when ford bought jaguar after being rebuffed by fiat.they poured a hell of a lot of money into the jag product.well fiat couldnt stand having alfa being bought by america.you know sometimes the italians can act like the french.but in the process of keeping alfa out of unholy hands they've killed it off.as long as the home country killed her its all right.once more i say what a pity.but philosophicly speaking it may not be the space time in this place for such as alfa was. --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Robert <[email protected]> wrote: From: Robert <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing To: [email protected] Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:25 AMeping alfa out of > From: George Graves <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [alfa] This is deeply disturbing > To: "John Brase" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 3:21 PM > > > Look, Alfa Romeo is just another global bland...er brand these days. The heart > and soul of the company was gutted from it when Fiat took over and decided to > base Alfas on Fiats and to go to FWD. I mean for Alfa Romeo to go from being a > company that built products that were the best in the world in their day (and > the pre-war Ferrari in prestige, cost, and racing heritage) to being a > re-badged Chrysler product, is quite a fall from grace. Fiat has mismanaged > the company since they bought it - at least the Italian government left Alfa > alone (more or less) when they had the helm. Two things have led to the demise of Alfa. 1- The Italian Government. The Italian's government decision to increase employment by Alfa producing cheap cars that competed with FIAT in the early 70s. They may even be responsible for the rusty metal, problem depending on what you read. 2- Anything designed under Rudolf Hruska. The Alfetta and Alfa Sud pretty much destroyed Alfa's reputation in the 70's. The ARNA didn't help either! In 1986 even BMW ran away from buying Alfa because there was nothing. These are the same people who later bought Rover. Also, Alfa was going front wheel drive before FIAT's purchase. The 164 was designed prior to the acquisition of FIAT. Lets not forget the Sud was front wheel drive also. Robert -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected] -- to be removed from alfa, see http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi or email "unsubscribe alfa" to [email protected]
