Le Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:22:24 +1000,
"Claude Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> Hi all,
> 
> Below is the message I put in Linux Forum early on asking for help but that 
> was under Mandrake 2006 distribution and now FC5.
> Yes, I was so naive to move between kernels and thought that the problem 
> would have gone.
> I did actually install 1.0.11rc5 driver +lib_utils in Mandrake's but after 
> installation I still couldn't find where the snd-riptide is 
> supposed to locate. But now I have no trace of this anymore as I said I had 
> removed the Mandrake 2006 distribtion.
> Now,  since you guys mentioned that it is the manufacturer problem not to 
> write a module to support Linux.
> Since I am novice to Linux, does it mean that there is no solution and I have 
> to stay without sound if I am interested to
> use FC-5 ?
> 
> Start of message quoted
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 distrbution(free) consisting of 3 disks 
> >> without great problem except without
> >> sound. Dual-boot option with Window Xp Prof smoothly. But after 
> >> installed it gives no sound in Linux. But there
> >> is no sound problem in Window Xp Prof.
> >> I need your advice.
> >>
> >>
> >> I am giving you the following info:
> >>
> >>
> >> My desktop specs:
> >>
> >> HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB DIMM
> >> sound hardware on board
> >> video graphic onbaord
> >> Hdd 40GB
> >>
> >> $lsmod
> >>
> >> indicated no snd-x drivers installed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $cat /proc/asound/version
> >>
> >> showed Alsa version installed
> >> Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9b
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $ cat / proc/asound/cards
> >>
> >>
> >> ---showed no sound card----
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> When Linux bootup, building processes showed 2 errors in [FATAL] flags
> >>
> >> 1. Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: (riptide) start servicce sound 
> >> (Y)/(N)/(C) ? (Y)
> >> Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: Module snd-riptide not found
> >> Fatal: Error running install command for snd-riptide [Fatal]
> >>
> >>
> >> Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards found...
> >>
> >> Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No such file or directory [Fatal]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tried using Mandrake Control Center auto-hardware detection showed sound 
> >> information as:
> >>
> >> Name: Riptide Audio Device
> >> showed driver used: snd-riptide
> >> However, Linux returned with error while initialising the sound driver:

??? It is no snd-riptide driver in alsa. I don't know how mandrake can found a 
driver that doesn't exist.

I am affraid at the only thing you can do is to buy a new soundcard if
you want to have sound in linux with your box. Look here:
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/ before buying to be sure at alsa will 
support it.

You can ask HP to release developper information for their sound chips too.

Best
Dominique


> >>
> >> Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file or directory)
> >>
> >> When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file existed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $lspci |grep -i audio
> >> showed audio controller Rockwell International Riptide PCI Audio 
> >> Controller
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have also tried to download; alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz 
> >> alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz and followed 
> >> instruction to install.
> >> But met error while installing alsa-lib-0.4.1d ./configure : 
> >> configure:error:install alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
> >> However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp site not found this 
> >> version.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Furthermore, i could not locate the exact manufcaturer of soundcard in 
> >> your Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot really load the right
> >> driver. What should I do?
> >>
> >>More info:
> 
> #lspcidrake -v/fgrep AUDIO
> returned: Rockwell SemiconductorsSystem/Master Riptide PCI Audio 
> Controller(Multimedia Audio)
> 
> #grep sound-slot/etc/modprobe.conf
> returned: alias sound-slot-0 snd-riptide
> 
> #/sbin/lsmod
> returned: snd-riptide not loaded but only snd-0
> 
> 
> #chkconfig --list sound
> returned: sound service is configured to be run in init-level 3 sound 3:ON
> 
> #chkconfig --list alsa
> returned: alsa 3:ON
> 
> #find /lib/modules/ -name snd-riptide\*
> it returned nothing. I saw there is only 2.6.12-12mdk in that directory.
> 
> In addition, I used #modprobe snd-riptide
> returned : Module snd-riptide not found
> 
> >>
> >> Lastly the bottom line is the system could not detect a soundcard.--- it 
> >> always showed no soundcard found.
> >>
> >> Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and thanks in advance. 
> 
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Claude YU
> 
> 
> --------------------------------
> End of quoted message
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sergei Steshenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Bill Unruh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Claude Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net>; 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] Unable to load sound modules though 
> soundcard(onbard) detected
> 
> 
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006, Claude Yu wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hi Clemens,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > After installing FC-5 distribtion and booting up in dual boot mode 
> >> > gracefully. It is great. however,
> >> > something has made me feel so outrageous similarly to the fate of 
> >> > installing Mandrake 2006 -- No sound!
> >> 
> >> I hope that you did not change distributions in order to get that sound.
> >> Changing distributions will do nothing for you if both use older versions
> >> of alsa. At least in Kenrel 2.6.12 the also is too old.
> >> 
> >> You need to download alsa 1.0.11, making sure that you have the eknrel
> >> source installed, and compile it and install it to gt the riptide module.
> >> 
> >> > I found either kernel unable to load sound modules to support its sound.
> >> > The soundchip(on board) has been detected as Rockwell Semiconductor PCI 
> >> > Audio Controller and it requires
> >> > snd-riptide driver. However,  I have checked the kernel now(FC-5) does 
> >> > not have module to support this.
> >> 
> >> What is the kernel number? What is alsa (cat /proc/asound/version) version?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > I have checked:
> >> > /lib/modules/2.6.15-1.2054_FC5/kernel/sound/pci
> >> >
> >> > has NO snd-riptide driver but only other drivers.
> >> >
> >> > As I am a novice Linux user, I heard about building a new kernel to 
> >> > support it or configure a loadable modules. Either
> >> 
> >> YOu need to compile alsa 1.0.11 Do not try to compile your kernel.
> >> 
> >> > way has no way to start with. Of course simple approach is always best, 
> >> > I don't mind to try a harder way but need some advice to start with.
> >> > Furthermore,  while trying some commands like:
> >> > make config, make menuconfig ...
> >> > It returned with missing parameters... so forth.
> >> 
> >> And when you report errors, please report them exactly. This kind of vague
> >> statement gives us nothing to help you with.
> >> 
> >> > FC-5 command mode not accept though I have installed the Development 
> >> > Tool during package installation.
> >> 
> >> ??
> >> 
> >> > I really need your advice to get me sound back as
> >> > normal as running in Window XP Pro in the same system.
> >> 
> >> Since Windows runs the soundcard using drivers supplied by the
> >> manufacturer, write the manufacturer to ask why they did not write a module
> >> for Linux.  Then try the new alsa.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > Thanks in advance.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> 
> > 
> > The latest KNOPPIX has pretty new ALSA and kernel - see
> > 
> > ftp://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/knoppix/knoppix-dvd/packages-dvd.txt :
> > 
> > ii  alsa-base                1.0.11-1                 ALSA driver 
> > configuration files
> > ii  alsa-utils               1.0.11-2                 ALSA utilities
> > ii  linux-image-2.6.17       2.6.17-10.00.Custom      Linux kernel binary 
> > image for version 2.6.17
> > ii  linux-kernel-headers-kno 0.5-2                    Symlinks to 
> > unpackaged Kernel header files for KNOPPIX
> > ii  linux-sound-base         1.0.11-1                 base package for ALSA 
> > and OSS sound systems
> > .
> > 
> > The beauty of KNOPPIX-like distributions is that you can run them from 
> > CD/DVD
> > without installation and kernel compilation, so it's really easy and quick 
> > to
> > try.
> > 
> > 
> >


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