On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Friday 23 May 2008 00:27, Peter Westley wrote:
> > Nigel,
> >
> > Thanks again for putting so much time into my problem! See comments
> inline.
> >
> > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Nigel Henry <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:35, you wrote:
> > > > Update:
> > > >
> > > > I removed the DVB-T card from the system and rebooted - same problem.
> > > > System sees the card but the ALSA system doesn't recognise the codec
> > > >
> > > > <sigh> still looking.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > Hi Peter. First of all it would be fair to say that there are horrible
> > > problems with hda intel based cards, as they are setup differently on
> the
> > > mobos of PC's/Laptops, depending on which machine you have. Laptops are
> > > the worst, as your only alternative if you can't get the onboard hda
> > > intel card to produce sounds, is to buy a USB, or pcmcia card. At least
> > > with a PC, and aspare PCI slot you can buy a cheap, known Alsa
> supported
> > > card, and get the sounds working.
> > >
> > > That said, you had sounds working when you had your Gutsy Gibbon
> > > installed, so
> > > at least you know the sounds worked with the hda intel card.
> > >
> > > You say that your not sure if the sounds stopped after installing the
> > > server
> > > version of Ubuntu GG, or after you'd installed HH 8.04. I spent a bit
> of
> > > time
> > > at the Ubuntu site looking at the server version, and the kernel. It
> did
> > > say
> > > the server kernel was somewhat different, but didn't say too much about
> > > the differences. I don't know if there is some specific reason that you
> > > need the
> > > server kernel, but if not it may be worth installing the generic one,
> and
> > > seeing if the sounds work ok with it.
> > >
> > > I'm a bit lost. Alsaconf is now deprecated, and no longer exists on GG.
> > > You used to be able to run that command as root, and it would search
> for
> > > soundcards, and if found set them up. I can't find anything on GG to
> > > reconfigure the soundcard. All that running "asoundconf list " (no
> double
> > > quotes)shows is soundcards that are already configured.
> > >
> > > There are a couple of things you could try to perhaps identify the
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > First open konsole/terminal, and enter the following text.
> > > sudo tail -f /var/log/messages
> > > This should capture any problems when running the following stuff.
> > >
> > > Now open another instance of konsole/terminal, and run the following
> > > command.
> > > sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> > > Followed by /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> > > Any messages on the konsole running tail -f?
> >
> > I get:
> > $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
> > * Shutting down
> > ALSA... *
> warning:
> > 'alsactl store' failed with error message 'alsactl: save_state:1497: No
> > soundcards found...'...
> [fail]
> >
> > Which is to be expected I guess...
> >
> > Then:
> > $ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start
> > * Setting up ALSA...
> [
> > OK ]
> >
> > and in /var/log/messgaes:
> > May 22 23:04:38 snoopy kernel: [97942.954373] ACPI: PCI Interrupt
> > 0000:00:1b.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
> > May 22 23:04:39 snoopy kernel: [97943.034189] ACPI: PCI interrupt for
> > device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
> >
> > Which is similar to what goes in dmesg when the system boots:
> > >From demsg:
> >
> > [ 40.254047] ALSA /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu
> > -modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-server/sound/alsa
> > -driver/pci/hda/../../alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_intel.c:1892:
> > hda-intel: no codecs found!
> > [ 40.254089] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:1b.0 disabled
> >
> > > Also check out cat /proc/asound/cards, to see if any cards have
> appeared.
> > > if
> > > so we may be getting somewhere, but if not try the next suggestion, as
> > > below.
> >
> > Nothing appeared
> >
> > Leaving the konsole running tail -f open, on the other konsole do.
> >
> > > rmmod snd-hda-intel
> > > This may need to be run as.
> > > modprobe -r snd-hda-intel, if the rmmod command fails.
> > >
> > > Now run.
> > > modprobe snd-hda-intel
> > >
> > > Check again any output from the other konsole running tail -f, and also
> > > run.
> > > cat /proc/asound/cards, which may show detected cards.
> >
> > Nothing from those commands in /var/log/messages
> >
> > Whatever output you get on the konsole/terminal that is running tail
> >
> > > -f /var/log/messages, please post it to myself, and to the alsa-user
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Personally, and if you have a spare PCI slot, I'd have a look on E-bay
> > > for an
> > > Audigy2 soundblaster card (emu10k1), which is the one I have. I think
> > > they can be picked up quite cheaply, and I know that this card works.
> > > Just a suggestion.
> >
> > That's exactly what I would have done ages ago but sadly my stupid
> > motherboard has only one PCI slot and that has the DVB-T card in it so
> > sadly not an option.
> >
> > I will post to the alsa-dev group and see what they have to say.
> >
> > Peter
>
> Hi Peter. Sorry none of my suggestions produced any positive results.
>
> As regards your mobo with only one PCI slot. That has to be quite pathetic.
> You used to be able to get mobo's with 5 PCI slots, and I've been hunting
> for
> a new atx mobo, to put in a case that I've had for some time. I have found
> an
> atx one with 3 PCI slots, and a couple pf PCI express ones, and am waiting
> for it to arrive (Asus M2N-X Plus). Not too expensive 52.50 euros. It too
> may
> have a dodgy onboard soundcard. It will be interesting to see if the sound
> works when it arrives.
>
> Yes, do post to the alsa-development list. I hope someone there can help
> you
> to get the sounds back up and running.
>
> Nigel.
>
>
Nigel,
The mobo was was my own stupid fault - I bought it in a hurry and didn't
research properly! It does have two PCIe slots but there's precious little
in PCIe that Linux seems to support at all yet.
I will probably go the mobo replacement path eventually (then my 15yo son
can have this one - he's been bugging me for one for ages!)
I am going to try one more thing and that is to install a fresh Ubuntu
desktop onto an external drive and just check that the sound comes up
there...
Peter
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