Hi Jordi, Will we use email thread for each topic as well? I am writing up a document for some aspects of Topic A and am eager to post :-)
Richard On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 7:34 AM Jordi Ros Giralt <j...@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Many thanks Richard for the great notes and summary of our call yesterday. > > Following up on the below plan, I initiated the conversation for topic A > under this thread: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/nSBb2fJwwEEEeZ-Xxw-OmHhJdTs/ > > Please use this thread to directly express your opinions on topic A. Other > group members will be initiating similar threads for the other topics. > > I have also updated the root document on ALTO future work to include the > latest conversations about each of the topics: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpziU7NZEE8f84XkJSjMhEIHUA5G7rXkGB5c_7UFxUY/edit?usp=sharing > > Thanks, > Jordi > ------------------------------ > *From:* alto <alto-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of Y. Richard Yang < > y...@cs.yale.edu> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2023 1:47 > *To:* IETF ALTO <alto@ietf.org> > *Subject:* [alto] June 20, 2023 meeting minutes and discussion working > links > > > *WARNING:* This email originated from outside of Qualcomm. Please be wary > of any links or attachments, and do not enable macros. > Hi all, > > As suggested by Ayoub, Jordi and others during the weekly meeting today, > starting from today, the note taker will not only update the meeting > minutes page ( > https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/blob/main/meetings-ietf-alto/ietf-alto-2023.md), > but also provide a text summary and comments, if appropriate, on the > meeting. So below are my quick comments and the full meeting minutes are > below; the archive is at the link above. > > Regarding comments, the most important item that I, as a note taker, take > away is the wonderful discussion about how to organize future work > discussions. In particular, the participants divided the potential work > into 4 areas, and created 4 github issues. We also created a common Google > doc to allow systematic write up. The links to them are below. > > In particular, the four areas and their coordinators are: > - A: Integration of data sources and their exposures; coordinator: Jordi, > Luis and Kai > - B: Maintenance of ALTO protocol; coordinator: Luis, Richard > - C: Security and trust; coordinators: Ayoub, Junichi, Motoyoshi > - D: New architectural extensions; coordinators: Roland and Sabine > > We sure can adjust the coordinators. So so, please let me know, and we can > adjust the page. The plan is that the coordinators will closely with the > chairs (Qin and Med) to make concrete progress. The coordinators will kick > off the discussions. > > Richard as note taker on June 20, 2023 > > ==== Meeting Minutes Text ==== > > *IETF, ALTO Meeting: June 20, 2023* > > *Agenda:* > > - Transport and OAM documents > - Transport: > https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-new-transport/issues > - OAM: https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang/issues > - ALTO Future Work: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/uIFD6Dhikfu4J4PYcpJTbsiXbnE/ > > > https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/blob/main/FutureALTO/alto-direction-of-work.md > - Preps for IETF 117: > - Drafts and presentations that the ALTO group plans to work on > - Agenda > - New revision of Green Networking Metrics draft in opsawg: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cx-opsawg-green-metrics/ > > *Minutes* > > *Note taker: Richard > > - > > Charter documents: transport and OAM updates > - OAM: Jensen and Med had a discussion on the draft and submit the > revision to IESG. The document is now waiting for AD review. > - Transport: Richard sent a note to Martin Thompson, to provide the > justification on introducing server push using PUSH PROMISE. It includes > two basic reasonings: lower load, and the feature is optional; Kai > updated > that Med sent two pull requests and sent the latest version for AD > review, > and wait for updates. > - > > Updates on future work on ALTO > - > > Overview: Jordi started with an update on the planning: Please > follow the ongoing conversation on the WG mailing list initiated by > Sabine, > engaged by Jordi and Luis; the WG welcomes conversations by all; please > socialize the ideas; leadership is important and please take ownership; > this WG meets each week, and we do not know any other IETF WG that meets > each week, but because we meet each week, we do not use the mailing > list, > which may appear to be inactive by those not attending the weekly > meeting. > - > > Individual topics: > - Jordi summarized that from the mailing list, item 3 appears to be > the most preferred; please do discussions, propose a charter item > and then > write documents; The goal is to go to 117 and should be prepared. > - Richard commented that one of his focus points will be on data > sources, which can be more informational than standard. Luis advised > that > there can be two types of approaches: bottom-up (individuals propose > ideas), and top-down (chairs/AD guidance). > - Luis suggests that we should take a look at chair-mentioned > items such as BGP communities, and security; mid-term: such as data > sources, please go to the mailing list. > - > > Work organization: Meeting notes work plan: Ayoub gave the suggestion > that note taker shares the note to the mailing list, some kind of annotated > meeting minutes. Roland clarified that the sharing notes can be double > sent, or summary/highlights, or up to note taker. Organizing discussions: > Luis/Jordi: email as record, GitHub tickets to organize; Jordi creates 4 > tickets, and puts links to doc. > - > > Issues, leads, and working documents: > - > > Topic A: > - GitHub issue: #48 > <https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/issues/48> > - Topic coordinator: Jordi, Kai > - > > Topic B: > - GitHub: #49 > <https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/issues/49> > - Topic coordinator: Roland, Sabine > - > > Topic C: > - GitHub: #50 > <https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/issues/50> > - Topic coordinator: Ayoub, Junichi, Motoyoshi > - > > Topic D: > - GitHub: #51 > <https://github.com/ietf-wg-alto/wg-materials/issues/51> > - Coordinator: Luis, Jordi > - > > Discussion Google doc: > - > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rpziU7NZEE8f84XkJSjMhEIHUA5G7rXkGB5c_7UFxUY/edit?usp=sharing > - > > Goals: Enabling conversations and concrete documents (compute, edge > service, etc), need to focus; real good way to make progress is > internet-draft (ID) as ground truth, from dynamic to stable, with focus > on > writing drafts for concrete results). > >
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