Hello,

 

For what i know, XP Mode is simply a little extension to Virtual Pc that:

·         hide the desktop of the virtual machine

·         has the ability to register applications installed on virtual
machine into the Start Menu of Windows 7

·         come with a free, installed and licensed copy of Win XP Pro (this
is probably the reason why XP Mode is not allowed on Win 7 Home)

 

But you can run Virtual Pc on Win 7 Home edition, and if you own a valid
license for XP, you can install it. Of course, you will see the desktop of
the VM, and you will have to launch your applications from the Start Menu of
the VM.

 

The solution I adopted is to use Oracle VirtualBox, which:

·         is free and open source

·         more powerful than Virtual PC (can have more than 1 processor
assigned to the VM, accept x64 client, …)

·         has the ability to hide the desktop of the VM

·         run on Win 7 Home edition

So I have the taskbar of Win 7 on top of screen, the taskbar of Win XP on
the bottom of the screen (or another monitor), and all the applications
seems to live on Win 7 desktop.

 

Regards, Patrick

 

De : amibroker@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amibro...@yahoogroups.com] De la part
de Yuki Taga
Envoyé : samedi 17 juillet 2010 03:43
À : wavemechanic
Objet : Re: [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity

 

  

Yes, as coercive as it is, I have come to the conclusion that it's
simply better to just buy the Ultimate versions. I remember XP Home
was even crippled in some aspects of networking compared to XP Pro.
Too much time and bother to sit down and understand every single
detail of what they have crippled in the various lessor versions, and
what that may or may not mean to me, either at that moment, or in the
future.

I try to even the score with MS by only taking every other OS upgrade
now. ^_^

Yuki

Saturday, July 17, 2010, 10:15:00 AM, you wrote:

w> Microsoft says that "productivity" programs (I assume this means
w> Quicken, Money, etc.) running under XP require the higher versions
w> of Windows 7 (Professional and Ultimate) which permit an XP mode
w> program to be downloaded and installed. Just a little bit of
w> unbundling in order to help the bottom line.

w> ----- Original Message ----- 
w> From: Lionel Issen 
w> To: amibroker@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>  
w> Sent: July 16, 2010 8:41 PM
w> Subject: RE: [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity

w> Windows 7 has more problems than this. Programs that ran under
w> Windows XP don't run as well under Win 7

w> Internet Explorer, Quicken, and a few others ran quite well
w> under XP, under Win 7 these programs are often unstable. All
w> these programs that are running under Win7 are updated versions.

w> 

w> Lionel

w> 

w> From: amibroker@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
w> [mailto:amibroker@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of Yuki Taga
w> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 7:16 PM
w> To: Patrick Dumain
w> Subject: Re: [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity

w> 

w> 

w> Patrick, some more information about this oddity:

w> The flashing problem is apparently caused because Windows wants to
w> open a popup box ("Show hidden icons") *above* the triangle. But
w> when the taskbar is at the top of the screen, there isn't screen
w> space for that popup in its "normal" position above the triangle, so
w> it starts that annoying flashing. Pulling the taskbar to double
w> width (something I don't care to do) allows enough screen space for
w> that popup to open in its "normal" position, so it behaves in the
w> expected manner with no flashing.

w> Another interesting thing about this: I use a program called Active
w> Window Manager for a number of tasks. When I chose to have it put an
w> additional taskbar on monitor number 2, the triangle on that
w> additional taskbar points up, as if the taskbar were on the bottom,
w> even though it is on the top, not down like it does on the main
w> monitor taskbar.

w> In this case -- and this is very counterintuitive -- the popup (on
w> monitor 2) opens *below* the triangle (even though it opens above the
w> triangle when the primary taskbar is on the bottom of the screen and
w> the triangle is pointing up). But in this case, no flashing because
w> there is room for the popup. (Because something is causing the popup
w> to open in the "wrong" position, which is actually the best position
w> when the taskbar is on top of the screen.)

w> However, there is no icon box with customize displayed when the
w> triangle on this second taskbar is clicked, the icons all appear in
w> the system tray (for about 1 second) until either one is selected or
w> no action is taken, at which time they disappear again.

w> As you say, none of this is anything one can't live with. It's just
w> interesting to observe the different behaviors, and particularly to
w> wonder why MS doesn't seem to have gotten it exactly right for a
w> somewhat popular configuration change -- putting the taskbar at the
w> top of the screen a la Mac.

w> Yuki

w> Thursday, July 15, 2010, 5:15:21 AM, you wrote:

w> YT> Hi Patrick,

w> YT> Ah, I forgot to mention that! ^_^ I've had the taskbar at the top of
w> YT> the screen forever (old Apple fan), so I forget that most do not.

w> YT> Yeah, I can live with that, too. Just wondered if it was
w> YT> reproducible behavior. Thanks.

w> YT> Yuki

w> YT> Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 11:47:44 PM, you wrote:

w> YT> PD> Hello,

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> Same behavior, but only if the taskbar is at the top of the
screen.

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> Strange, but I can live with .

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> Patrick

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> De : amibroker@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
w> YT> PD> [mailto:amibroker@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> ] De la part
w> YT> PD> de Yuki Taga
w> YT> PD> Envoyé : mercredi 14 juillet 2010 10:41
w> YT> PD> À : amibroker@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com> 
w> YT> PD> Objet : [amibroker] OT: One Windows 7 oddity

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> 

w> YT> PD> For the most part, I'm very pleased with 7. But there is one
oddity
w> YT> PD> that I'd like to know if anyone else experiences.

w> YT> PD> Hover the pointer over the "Show hidden icons" arrow in the
system
w> YT> PD> tray. I find two different behaviors. Imagine a horizontal line
w> YT> PD> perfectly bisecting the arrow (and the box around it that is
revealed
w> YT> PD> when you hover). If the cursor is as much as one pixel above that
w> YT> PD> line, even though it is on the arrow and in the box, there is a
w> YT> PD> flashing of the "Show hidden icons" title, and the click is not
100
w> YT> PD> percent sure -- sometimes it has to be repeated. But if the
pointer
w> YT> PD> is just one pixel below that imaginary center line, there is no
w> YT> PD> flashing at all, and the click works 100 percent.

w> YT> PD> To be sure, my experience is that you can be well below the
arrow,
w> YT> PD> even below the revealed box, and make this work just fine. You
can
w> YT> PD> hover at the very bottom of the taskbar under the arrow (but
within
w> YT> PD> the horizontal confines of that revealed box), and it works like
a
w> YT> PD> charm. You can also be way over the arrow (and well above the
box)
w> YT> PD> and you will get the flashing and some hit or miss clicking
results.

w> YT> PD> For me, a click only about one pixel above the bottom of the
taskbar,
w> YT> PD> but within the horizontal confines of that revealed box, will
show
w> YT> PD> hidden icon. All that is necessary is to be in an area where the
box
w> YT> PD> illuminates. But if you are one pixel above the center of that
area
w> YT> PD> (dead over the arrow, but just above an imaginary center), you
get
w> YT> PD> the flashing.

w> YT> PD> Anyone else?

w> YT> PD> It seems that the true target area for displaying hidden tray
icons
w> YT> PD> is a box beginning one pixel below the center of that area,
extending
w> YT> PD> down to the very first pixel at the bottom of the taskbar within
the
w> YT> PD> horizontal bounds. Hard to believe this passed muster.

w> YT> PD> Best,

w> YT> 

w> 



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