Yes, I agree. Thank you, Bill. With all respect, I would like very much to see the end of this thread, and all its twists. This horse has been whipped to death.
----- Original Message ----- From: "BILL WINTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati > Is this the AM reflector --or a political convention > enough allready > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of AM Radio" <amradio@mailman.qth.net> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:52 PM > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati > > > > > > You're right on the money, Don. As one of our Founding Fathers said: > > "Those willing to sacrifice their essential liberty for safety deserve > > neither." I may not have quoted Mr. Franklin exactly, but his idea of > > liberty is what sets America apart from all other nations. > > > > It's an on-going battle to preserve our liberties in this age of > > technology > > with all the do gooders who would use that technology to opress us in the > > name of "safety." > > > > 73, > > Ed N3CMI > > > > > > > > > > "Merz Donald S" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > om> To > > Sent by: "Discussion of AM Radio" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <amradio@mailman.qth.net> > > ailman.qth.net cc > > > > Subject > > 07/23/2004 01:30 RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware > > PM on utility poles in Cincinnati > > > > > > Please respond to > > Discussion of AM > > Radio > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > qth.net> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheesh. Maybe you should move to Russia. They already have all these great > > innovations implemented years ago--along with ID cards for every citizen > > and friendly troops with submachine guns on every street corner to help > > ensure your safety. > > > > 73, Don Merz, N3RHT > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Markavage > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 12:25 PM > > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in > > Cincinnati > > > > > > "When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I > > was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators. This > > is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if you lose > > it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU. And it is > > galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not the cell phone > > user." > > > > This should have been done years ago. Some lives might have been saved > > had this feature been available. > > > > "and we think it's so cute when CSI uses pictures from a camera at a > > random intersection to help solve a crime." > > > > Cameras should be installed at all traffic light and major stop sign > > intersections. > > > > "The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have > > boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish?" > > > > No, you have to give all your boatanchors to us. > > > > Pete, wa2cwa > > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:09:55 -0400 "Merz Donald S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > When I went to get a cell phone for my daughter about 2 months ago, I > > > was shocked to discover that cell phones now come with GPS locators. > > > This is ostensibly a "service" so the company can find your phone if > > > you lose it. But, of course, this means that they can also find YOU. > > > And it is galling that only the company can use the GPS feature, not > > > the cell phone user. > > > > > > So if we value our privacy, cell phones have joined the lengthening > > > list of things we have to guard ourselves against. Banks are free to > > > read your checks to mine data about your buying habits. Grocery > > > chains now use ID cards (for "valuable savings") to track what you > > > buy. Only the courts prevented the lets-legislate-morality loonies > > > from letting our ISPs check and block what we access on the web. > > > RF-ID tags now report when we use EZ-Pass going through a toll > > > booth. Surveillance cameras have become universal since the > > > technology is now so cheap--and we think it's so cute when CSI uses > > > pictures from a camera at a random intersection to help solve a > > > crime. And who doesn't want a car with On-Star? What the heck is > > > next? > > > > > > The Amish life style is looking better and better. Can you have > > > boatanchors and be a ham if you are Amish? > > > > > > 73, Don Merz, N3RHT > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of George > > > Pritchard > > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 9:26 AM > > > To: 'Discussion of AM Radio' > > > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in > > > Cincinnati > > > > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > > How long will it be before the govt' adds "interface devices" to the > > > "BPL > > > home internet connection" to further invade in on our privacy. I > > > feel very > > > uncomfortable with potential broadband "utility monitoring" of my > > > electric > > > meter! It opens the door to much invasion. > > > Live Free or die. The 20 gauge and bird shot is interesting. > > > George AB2KC > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald > > > Chester > > > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 2:17 PM > > > To: amradio@mailman.qth.net > > > Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in > > > Cincinnati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Actually this provides additional advantages to the Utility > > > Companies > > > >even if you don't subscribe to the internet service. A modem could > > > be > > > >hung on your electric, gas, or water meters, plugged into an AC > > > outlet, > > > >and now all meter readings could be done back at their facilities > > > via > > > >the BPL internet connection, eliminating the services of electric, > > > gas, > > > >or water meter readers. > > > > > > Wonder how long before some would develop and put on the market > > > bootleg > > > "brown boxes" -remember the "blue boxes" in the 80's that allowed > > > one to > > > illegally bypass the phone co.'s billing and make free phone calls? > > > These > > > things would take over and alter the data stream to the utility > > > company and > > > illegally reduce your bill. Or if you happened to transmit over the > > > air at > > > the critical moment and your signal caused data loss and scrambled > > > the data > > > so that you or a near by resident erroneously got a ridiculously > > > high > > > utility bill for services you did not use. > > > > > > Incidentally, Apple Computers got its start as a garage enterprise > > > that > > > produced blue boxes, and once they gained some capital, decided to > > > go legit > > > and put together the first personal computer, that started a > > > technological > > > revolution, even though the machine was extremely crude by today's > > > standards. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > ______________________________________________________________ > > AMRadio mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > > > The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is > > intended solely for the use of the named addressee. > > Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained > > therein by any other person is not authorized. > > If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by > > returning the e-mail to the originator.(B) > > ______________________________________________________________ > > AMRadio mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > AMRadio mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > > > ______________________________________________________________ > AMRadio mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net >
