Luc,
 When using a preamp in any metropolitan area a band pass filter is needed.
Helicoil types are very good for VHF. DCS makes them or build one out of the
RSGB Book. 
QFH antennas can be made 1/4 turn to 1 turn, 1/4 wave to 1 wave all with
different patterns. If done right they are a very effective antenna.

NOAA Tiros N satellites run 5 watts on 137 MHz. On 70 cm AO-51 is 1/2 W and
you lose 9 dB more for the increase in frequency. You have 3dB less galactic
noise on 70 cm, and another 3 dB for reduced bandwidth 37 KHz to 16 KHz.
Doing the math you are comparing 5 watts of (NOAA-18) to .250 effective
watts on AO-51 adjusted for noise power and frequency. A huge difference!

Art,
KC6UQH 

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:43 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Another satellite-receiver option


I try also  to receive NOAA APT transmission with an helix but i got very
marginal results even with a preamp for 137khz. The signal was 
better but the pagers QRM was also boosted by about a factor of 5...

The only one viable solution was to use my VHF satellite beam with a PAR
electronics vhf notch filter part number 5602516. Of course you 
should have a 50khz band pass below that results are also very marginal. I
don't know if the PCR-100 is able to received at this bandwidth 
but the PCR-1000 can and it can be driven by WXtoimg software.


P.S. My home made helix is available for 35$ plus shipping but a bit hard to
securely fit inside a shipping box. pics available if needed.

On 8 Jun 2009 at 23:14, Jerry Clement wrote:

> I use a Hamtronics R139 Weather fax Receiver with a QFH antenna that I
built for receving and decoding images from the weather birds such as NOAA
18. I never had any luck with any of my other receivers such as my Icom R20,
being to narrow for this purpose,  although I know of guy's who have
modified receivers successfully for just this purpose. My set up may be seen
on my website: www.stormchaser.cjb.net  click on: Quadrifilar Helix Antenna.
The page needs to be upgraded, as I use a newer laptop than the one shown. 
> 
> Jerry VE6AB
> www.ve6ab.blogspot.com
> _______________________________________________



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