Hi Bruce,KK5DO

AMSAT-DL is working very hard on P3-E and P5-A and in the near future they
will be able to launch P3-E

Work on P3-E is continuing and AMSAT-DL is busy looking for launch
possibilities and other ways for financing it, i.e. on coat-tails of the
P5 Mars Mission.

Indeed, P3-E is not a dream but a reality and AMSAT-DL need the support of
the community.

There will only a P3-E, if we all really want it..

If you want to support P3-E, than please visit
http://www.p3e-satellite.org/?lang=en_EN and make a direct donation to
the project - THANKS!

73" de

i8CVS Domenico


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <kk...@amsat.org>
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8...@tin.it>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released


i think i have a bunch of ao40 qso's on my website.
http://www.amsatnet.com/audio.html

problem is you are dreaming of reliving a time in history when we were
fortunate to have launches that were reasonably priced. today, we take what
is free and if that means proliferation of cubesats and nonosats so be it.

if you are willing to pay for a heo launch, let your favorite amsat know and
they will construct a heo for you to launch.

otherwise you should stop hampering the dreams and aspirations of those
building launchable satellites today. history might repeat itself but not
without a lot of money.

73...bruce

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2011, at 8:54 PM, "i8cvs" <domenico.i8...@tin.it> wrote:

> Hi Peter,NH6VB
>
> I believe that Stefan,VE4NSA never worked or was listening
> on a HEO othervise he will be not in favour only on the Cubesat
> and I am sure he will pull also like me and many others for P3E
>
> To give  Stefan a demonstration of what I am stating I have sent
> to all of you a WAV file 3 minutes long with a QSO via AO40 in
> wich we are three of us (IW2ERR-i5UXJ and i8CVS) talking like
> into a telephone without QSB or QRM and nice audio quality
> for hours much better than in 20 meters because we can interrupt
> each other at the same time.
>
> Sorry the QSO is in italian but it is sufficient to say that if Stefan
> ever worked a HEO he have missed a lot.
>
> Also sorry that my message to Peter,NH6VB including the WAV
> file bounced back to me.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stefan Wagener" <wagen...@gmail.com>
> To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh...@msn.com>
> Cc: <w...@charter.net>; "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@amsat.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 11:25 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I am glad you favour HEOs. Good for you. At least the cubesat
>> community does not bash and discriminate against your favourite
>> satellite system. Any university and organization that puts up a
>> cubesat is a winner for me. They are fun, challenging and use the
>> spectrum. More power to them. I am glad AMSAT is moving along with
>> Fox. Feel free to support the HEOs. My money is on the Cubesats.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 4:12 PM, nh6vb Scheller <nh...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> Stefan,
>>> With all due respects, have you ever worked a HEO?
>>> I am not bashing cubesats, there is a place for them, as you say.
>>> But, have you ever worked a HEO? If not, you have missed a lot.
>>> De Peter, NH6VB
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:17:03 -0500
>>>> From: wagen...@gmail.com
>>>> To: arsk...@gmail.com
>>>> CC: w...@charter.net; amsat-bb@amsat.org
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 version 12.8b is released
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I am so sick and tired of bashing the cubesat community. At least they
>>>> are putting satellites in orbit and they ARE licensed radio amateurs
>>>> with the same access to the spectrum as all of us!
>>>>
>>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
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