Usually the diplexer as a filter is only needed to keep the 2m tx from 
overloading a 70cm preamp. For a two radio setup with no preamp, it usually 
isn't needed at all.

73, Drew KO4MA

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On Jun 3, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Greg D <ko6th.g...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, all the on-line information seems to point to this solution - putting a 
> diplexer (filter) on the 70cm side to tap off and absorb the incoming 2m 
> signal. Isn't there also a design where one puts a filter on the 2m side, to 
> tap off and absorb the 70 cm (3rd harmonic of 2m) signal?
> 
> I would think that any (reasonable) 70cm receiver would have enough rejection 
> for a signal so far out of band, but the in-band 3rd harmonic can only be 
> taken care of at its source. At least, I think that's the logic.
> 
> Is there anything worthy about the other design, or is the most common 
> problem that our HTs can't possibly deal with a strong 2m signal on the 70cm 
> side because of their "DC to Daylight" receivers?
> 
> I've been on the mode-J birds without much of a problem with this sort of 
> desense, though I did have a lot of trouble on AO-40 with reflected RF when 
> aiming through a big oak tree behind the house. The 70cm uplink was 
> interfering with the 13cm downlink, and I was pretty sure at the time that it 
> was a 3rd harmonic sort of problem.
> 
> Just curious,
> 
> Greg KO6TH
> 
> 
> Ronald Nutter wrote:
>> Robert:
>> 
>> I have used a duplexer on the UHF side of my satellite ops for several 
>> years. I find that some radios have more of a desense problem than others. 
>> Here is a link to my website where I briefly talk about what I do on 
>> portable ops and using what is referred to as a Mode J filter - 
>> http://www.ka4kyi.com/satellite_gear/misc_equipment/
>> 
>> Ron Nutter
>> KA4KYI
>> AMSAT Area Coordinator for Missouri
>> 
>> On 6/2/12 11:33 AM, Robert Coppock wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hola, i am trying to determine the best way to work full duplex on the 
>>> birds with 2 HT's or radios. i cannot find any info so far on the web. my 
>>> concern is to keep the transmit power out of the receive radio, i guess 
>>> basically the difference between a diplexer and duplexer. since i am 
>>> efficient (lazy) i thought i would just look for suggestions here while i 
>>> am checking google also. what do i need, di/du/ plexer, and what is the 
>>> correct wiring scheme ? i will be using the arrow antenna without the built 
>>> in duplexer, from the 2 feeds (vhf/uhf) and 2 HT's for now. my picture of 
>>> it so far, is to wire the vhf radio direct to the vhf feed port on the 
>>> arrow, and have the uhf port on the arrow come into a duplexer, with the 
>>> duplexer uhf port going to the uhf radio, and the duplexer vhf port 
>>> terminated into a 50 ohm dummy load. also, any suggestions of specific 
>>> duplexers would be appreciated. i think i started on this project a few 
>>> years ago, but never got around to get!
>> ti!
>>> ng it all together. grazie mille, Robert k f 0 g cn81 in the woodwork, 
>>> literally, shasta/klamath national forests.
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