FYI: All US operators using 472-510 KHz (so
called 600 meter band) are operating with
experimental licenses. Several countries have
already approve ham radio for parts of this
band. WRC-2012 approved this use, but each
country has to initiate ham radio service for
their nationals to use it as hams.
Also: Many space applications are approved as
experimental stations. My former employer
licensed use of orbiting GPS tracking service for
sea-going buoys by obtaining an experimental
license to use a Canadian-French Satellite
(ARGOS) which had not obtained FCC sanction (or
maybe should be called type acceptance) in the 403 MHz band.
Most animal tracking is by satellite these days
and often is licensed as experimental for the
same reason: the satellite is not US licensed so
their exists no normal US licensed service to use that satellite.
73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 (ARRL 600m Experimental Group)
I wrote the experimental license application for my former employer.
At 07:19 PM 11/20/2013, Arthur Feller wrote:
Hi, Bill,
Go to http://www.fcc.gov and search for
experimental. Strongly suggest reading Part 5
of the FCC rules first. (See:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/browse/collectionCfr.action?collectionCode=CFR&searchPath=Title+5&oldPath=Title+5&isCollapsed=false&selectedYearFrom=2013&ycord=161.
You may have to wait for Title 47
(Telecommunications) to be added to the 2013
edition, then go to Part 5.) Make sure you have the version revised this year.
Some thoughts for you.
To the good: Experimental stations can
be assigned to any frequency. Experimental
stations may be licensed for all the purposes
listed in Part 5 of the FCC Rules and
Regulations. Commercial ideas can be tried
out. Operators may be paid. Encryption may be
used. Applications can be made online. The cost is somewhere around $100.
To the bad: Operation is secondary to
EVERYTHING. In case of causing harmful
interference, the experimental station is
required to cure the problem, which usually
means being ordered to shut down immediately
with no recourse. In case of suffering harmful
interference, it must be tolerated. (Not a
good options for significant investments in
time and money.) Communication is normally
permitted only with stations listed on the
license. Communication with regularly licensed
stations (including amateur) is
forbidden. International communication is
normally forbidden, unless administrations made
arrangements in advance. International coordination is usually required.
One more thing on sharing bands allocated to the
amateur-satellite service. FCC now requires
IARU coordination, though they didnt give IARU
notice. (This story requires several
807s.) To help out folks who had already built
projects thinking (erroneously) that they could
fly as amateur, IARU worked out an arrangement
to provide coordination service on a TEMPORARY
basis. Coordination requested in the 144-146
MHz will no longer be provided for experimental
stations after mid 2014. See 2013 AMSAT Technical Symposium Proceedings.
IMHO, appropriate radiocommunication services
and frequency allocations are already available,
can provide international status, and should be
applied for, rather than amateur-satellite
service frequencies. Fees will be required, but
FCC might waive their fees with a justified
request. ITU fees are normally required, except for amateur stations.
I hope this helps.
73, art
..
W4ART Arlington VA
On 20-Nov-2013, at 10:34 PM, Bill Ress <b...@hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
> Art,
>
> Aaah! I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for
clearing it for me anyway. Can you point me to
the FCC web link where I can understand (apply)
for an experimental license for a Cubesat in the Amateur bands.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
> On 11/20/2013 4:29 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>> Hi, Bill,
>>
>> By special arrangement earlier this year,
IARU agreed to provide coordination service for
experimental stations on an temporary
basis. Many of the experimental station
operators are also licensed amateurs, however
that has no bearing on experimental station operation.
>>
>> More on this in the 2013 AMSAT Technical
Symposium Proceedings. See the article by Hans, ZS6AKV.
>>
>> 73, art
..
>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>
>>
>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 06:11 PM, Bill Ress <b...@hsmicrowave.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Art,
>>>
>>> Now I'm a little confused by your comment
that most Cubesats are licensed as
experimental. On yesterdays Minotaur launch, 17
Cubesats are operated by Amateurs and were coordinated through the IARU.
>>>
>>> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>>>
>>> On 11/20/2013 2:50 PM, Arthur Feller wrote:
>>>> One thing we learned in bureaucrat school
is that jumping to conclusions is not a healthy exercise. :-)
>>>>
>>>> FCC licensed most of the new cubes as
experimental stations and not as amateur
stations. Experimental stations may be
assigned to any frequency, provided they do not
cause harmful interference to stations
operating in accordance with the ITU radio
regulations. See RR Article 27 and 47 CFR Part 5.
>>>>
>>>> These experimental stations are not
operating in the amateur-satellite service,
only sharing the bands on a secondary
basis. They are permitted to communicate only
with stations listed on their license, so it
would be inappropriate for them to seek help
from amateurs, though amateurs may certainly
listen. Note that experimental stations may encrypt their transmissions.
>>>>
>>>> Some of the satellites, such as TJ3SAT,
and some others, are amateur stations! Sure
would be good for them to make a noise here on BB!! (HINT!)
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> 73, art
..
>>>> W4ART Arlington VA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 20-Nov-2013, at 07:56 AM, Stefan Wagener <wagen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>
>>>>> because their are designed and operated by students and teachers with a
>>>>> valid ham radio licence!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Richard
Ferryman <g4...@btinternet.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why are those cubesats using amateur frequencies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dick G4BBH
>>>>
>>>> http://afeller.us
>>>>
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>> Human kindness has never weakened the
stamina or softened the fiber of a free people.
A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
>> -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
>>
>>
>>
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>
Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or
softened the fiber of a free people. A nation
does not have to be cruel to be tough.
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Roosevelt, 32nd US President (1882-1945)
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