On Fri, 05 May 2006 14:26:26 -0400, Karel Demeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Please comment on this.  I was assited by 2 Gnome Usability guys for
this.  About the contactlist-right-click menu I have to ask some more
advice fomr 'm.  But we have to make sure what we want.  When a user is
not online and we double-click, and we want it to open a SMS for mobile
users, we should have "send an SMS" as first item and have thus the
action on doubleclick and also the first group of actions in that menu
depend on this.  If you gray out the first item and do it also for
others, it means you don't have any double-click action defined.

cool, but I still beleive the popup menu should be the same for every user with items greyed out and "first non-greyed out action == double-click"



Under here the mainwin-proposal,

Karel.




These are not anymore in this menus-proposal:

[OFF] amsn versioncontrol -> in about window
        This was removes because it's not very much used anyway and only
populates
        screen real-estate.  whe a user checks the version he/she has in the
about
        window, he/she should be able to check for the latest release in there
too.

[OFF] minimise instead of close -> in preferences
        This is something only set once.  From usability point of view it's
even
        wrong to minimise a window (to the tray) when the close button is used
as
        this should do the same as the "close" entry in the main menu.  Though,
        this is an often requested feature, so it should be kept, and it's
place
        is in the preferences window.


here's an example of a non respected thing from the guideline.. congrats for your open mind ;) :p

[OFF] Change language -> in preferences
        This is a preference mostly only set once and thus belongs in the
        preferences screen.
[OFF] Change skin -> appearances in prefs
        Idem dito.



all seem to be well justified, 100% agree


I s




This is hte proposal:

===Account===
Log in as ...
Log in
Log out
---
Change Nickname ...
My Status >
---
Go to Inbox
My profile
---
view received files
show events history
---
Enable sounds
Plugins
Prefs
---
Close


===View===
  Sort contacts by status
  Sort contacts by group
* Sort contacts in hybrid mode
---
* Show contact with nickname
  Show contact with email
---
  Change global nickname ...
---
* Sort groups ascending
  Sort groups descending



===Actions===
send a message
send sms
send email
---
send file or foto
send webcam
ask to see webcam


(Wanted to merge this with "Contacts" but it would make the menu
too crowded andalso plugins should still be able to add stuff here)



===Contacts===
add a contact ...
remove a contact ...
Contact properties
---
New group
Rename group
Remove group
---
view chat history
view webcam sessions
---
save contactlist
load saved contactlist



===Help===
contents
---
FAQ
online help
---
about aMSN




I 99% agree, you really did  a great job on this!  kudos
my few comments : why enable sound in account menu ? yes it is account option, but I don't see it in there.. I would also think that an "Options" or "Tools" menu would be usefull (enable sound in there as well as access to prefs window + any often modified preferences) Also, optional, but what do you think of (as a new feature) a "Windows" menu ? with the list of all opened windows/contains.. might be usefull.. since it needs new code, maybe if it's accepted, do the design and keep it in the wiki until we implement the code for it.

you also pointed out something interesting when talking about some stuff that needs to be moved to prefs window.. how about a redesign of the prefs window :p yes, it WILL be redesigned.. but in time only.. also, we'd need someone to take it where Alvaro left on the new prefs window, I think he has the API finished, but only needs to code the items to apepar in the prefs window..
post-0.96



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