I agree as regards dropping tcl/tk - I cant program in anything else
except PHP lol so i wouldnt be able to contribute if we switched langs
(sorry Harry havent read the doc yet, just going on what Phil said,
will read later)

Tom

On 7/16/06, Philippe Valembois - Phil
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ouch !
> Hi,
> between my so beautiful week end and my first day of work tomorrow, I take the
> time to read mails and read yours too ;)
> And the first point where I disagree is :
> You want to drop Tcl/Tk !
> And it's a huge point ! Because if you drop it you will have many devels who
> will leave the project because they don't know C or C++... Tcl/Tk would be
> the only common point between aMSN and aMSN2 so if you remove it why call it
> aMSN2 ? (not the same devels, not the same languages, no incompatibility )
> The only common point I can find is the aim to have the better MSN client the
> Earth will ever have !
> KaKaRoTo you said I didn't created the amsn2 tree... But if I created it I
> would have put in it our work with TkHtml... But where will be TkHtml in this
> design ? It will be a GUI in TCL... But what said Harry ? "Usage of Tk for
> plugin UI components will however be strongly discouraged." so it will be a
> sort of "Do you I say but not what I do" very strange...
> In addition, you seem to be very tied with GLib and don't want to use C++...
> Why ? Why use some emulation of C++ in C ? If you want to use classes so we
> should use C++... Else I could advise you to code our classes in assembly :p
> Well, in fact, I totally disagree with this design but maybe I am the black
> sheep... Even if I know C and bases of C++, I couldn't let all non C/C++
> devels leave the team...
> Please everybody say if I am wrong or not ? Maybe I have too much feelings...
> Phil
> P.S. Harry, it's not that your design is bad (maybe on Glib thing it is
> bad :p) but I think it hasn't any relation with the aMSN that everybody
> know...
>
> Le Sunday 16 July 2006 20:38, Harry Vennik a écrit:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Last months I have done a lot of thinking about aMSN2. Especially about the
> > GUI part of it. I don't know if everyone followed the XML2GUI discussion.
> > Anyway, I changed my mind on that subject. I was convinced that, although
> > XML2GUI solutions did already exist, those would not fit our needs well
> > enough, so I started off designing a new solution, that would work for us,
> > and probably a lot of others. But still I did not feel comfortable with
> > that. It was just too much a matter of reinventing the wheel, and somehow I
> > could not really believe that none of the existing solutions would fit.
> > Especially XUL seemed so close, that I decided to go back one step, and
> > reinvestigate the possibilities, and try to find out what I missed the
> > first time. Eventually I found the answer, and chose Mozilla's XULRunner.
> >
> > After that, I started off writing the attached document, to specify:
> > - What the aMSN2 project is meant to be
> > - The aims of aMSN2
> > - The very basics of the technical structure of aMSN2
> >
> > Please read it all, and send your comments on this thread!
> >
> > Harry
>
>
>
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