How does a company shut down NOAA?  I am not sure I understand
correctly.

Yes it's very hard to compete against a company with multi-million
dollar marketing budget.  I also agree with Shane's points.  If you
have a different twist or geared toward a niche market, you might pull
it off.

I am creating an app which will be available as a free download and I
hope it will spread by words of month.  I have zero marketing budget.
I don't know if it will succeed but I am going to give it a shot.

Don't give up if you have a truly innovative product idea.

On May 13, 5:13 pm, Joa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I might go and publish the thing free as in freedom (no annoying users
> with ads), just because I can. I've taken the whole thing pretty far
> up the usability scale; all I need is location based search back which
> was replaced by a mock-up in m5, port up to that yet to be seen new
> SDK, implement a number of refinements I've thought up in the last
> months, and I'm good to go. Two weekends worth of work, maybe three.
> But then, why bother... What we'll see is that the carriers will cut a
> deal with the eight pound gorilla and brand "their" phones such that
> apps which make it past the velvet rope cannot be messed with. iPhone
> style. 99% of consumers won't bother and frankly I don't feel like
> proving anything for the remaining 1% who go out to unbrand their
> phones by installing a clean kernel from the Android distribution. And
> yeah I already got an open source project (unrelated) and I'm behind
> on work there. I guess I'll wait and see, perhaps I'm good for an ADC
> II toss-up.
>
> On May 13, 7:07 am, "Shane Isbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > HI Joa,
>
> > It's tough to compete against the Weather Channel on a weather app. My guess
> > is that even a lot of the ADC winners are going to be in the same boat in
> > about 12 months, as the big players move in. It's a tough industry. Java ME
> > pushed the small developer out within two years. In 2001, the Sprint
> > Developer program that many developers (including myself)  were excited
> > about flopped as the vendors moved in and started dominating the market. A
> > lot of broken promises there.
>
> > I don't think all is lost. If you can get a group working on the app, with a
> > different angle, focusing on a niche part of the market, you may be able to
> > pull it off. Opening sourcing your weather app and finding like minded
> > groups of individuals to work on it is also possible (but this is hard as
> > well). But in the end, its all about who can get the apps in front of the
> > user. Welcome to the industry.
>
> > Shane
>
> > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Joa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > First congrats to all who made the cut.
> > > For all who didn't - it reflects bad on everyone who can't let things
> > > be, so it's time to move on guys. And I'll apologize for rattling the
> > > cage last weekend. Probably not best of form, but competitive juices
> > > flowing for sure.
>
> > > Having said that, I am leaving ADC 1 behind with a feeling of
> > > deflation and the impression that it has not been terribly well
> > > managed. I guess I can fold one of my two entries regardless of the
> > > ADC (weather forecast for the US) anyway. A multi-billion dollar
> > > business is sitting in the "slot", so my prediction is that they'll
> > > probably go ahead and cut the deals with the carriers. That'll happen
> > > just based on name recognition, and it's totally irrelevant if they
> > > win any of the ADC rounds or not. Pocket change for those guys. In
> > > that regard, it's actually good they got in, so I can see they're out
> > > there. Saved me a lot of work and headache because they would've gone
> > > ahead and try to shut down my data source anyway, like has happened
> > > before (by another company in that industry). Oh well, if the goal of
> > > the ADC was to encourage independent developers it certainly hasn't
> > > worked on me.
> > > Joa
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