At the end of the day, it comes down to an allocation of resources on Google's part. I'd much rather have them spending time innovating Android, it's APIs, the Android Market, and so forth, rather than building a better GUI editor because people don't want to put in the time to learn how to do it. There are beautiful user experiences on the Android platform -- so it's a matter of putting away the "hold my hand" mentality of Visual Studio and learning how it's done.
Would I like a better editor? Of course. But not at the expense, or opportunity cost, of innovating in more compelling areas of Android. -- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Chris Stewart <cstewart...@gmail.com>wrote: > > I lol'd... > > +1 > > -- > Chris Stewart > http://chriswstewart.com > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nation-x <shawn.payme...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> I lol'd... >> >> On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx <craig...@austin.rr.com> wrote: >> > I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development >> > environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to >> > code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update, >> > delete and insert commands. If you know them that is great and it is >> > helpful. But by having a full mature visual development environment >> > you can concentrate on the application and not the code, unless >> > necessary. I have developed a fully functional asp.net application >> > with 53 database driven pages with lists and forms with full insert >> > update and delete capabilities, full security with logins, retrieve >> > passwords, create new users all in 2 weeks. No code! >> > >> > Later we added business rules and error trapping but what a head >> > start. If needed then you dig into code but use the built in mature >> > tools to the fullest. I had a problem once and got answers of 150 >> > lines of code. The solution was 1 line of code. >> > >> > We do not need to reinvent the wheel on every application. Thirty >> > years ago we had database application software that didn't require you >> > to code database connections, insert, deletes and update statements, >> > button clicks etc. I hope we have progressed farther that that. >> > >> > Eclipse is the best visual environment for Android code but far from >> > Microsofts Visual Studio development environment. >> > >> > Ever seen app_inventor, visual environment from Google? Interesting. I >> > wonder if it will ever be released? It may be too visual and maybe no >> > as powerful, butinteresting none the less. >> > >> > On Apr 5, 1:19 am, dirk <dhaa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying >> > > code, that is, the XML that's generated by a really good design tool. >> > > Saying you should have to learn the XML (in this case) is like saying >> > > you have to learn the bytecode that's generated from the java code. >> > > Sure, you always need understand the structure, but with good tools, >> > > you can _focus_ on the structure and not worry about the details. >> > >> > > On Apr 4, 7:01 pm, Robert <rcope...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > > Layout is part of development. Having tools to help with that are >> aids >> > > > but should not be used as an excuse not to learn the underlying >> code. >> > > > THe designer tools only generate the structures based on the rules >> > > > programmed into them. You will always have a more detailed level of >> > > > control by going to the lowest level available. Learn it and it'll >> > > > make you a better developer and your programs to be more >> > > > efficient. Using the higher level tools makes you only as >> > > > efficient at they are. >> > >> > > > Yes, it takes time and yes you have to learn it but that's what >> being >> > > > a real developer is all about. >> > > > Robert- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Android Developers" group. >> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
