Hi Joel, Are you able to pull the applications that have been installed through Android Market off of the device on the dev phone? SAM is using the system installer, so it will be the same as Android Market.
We are limiting paid purchases to just the device. Secure for G1, but interesting to see what the implications are on the dev phone. Web installs, like through Handango or AndroidGuys, go straight to /sdcard/downloads, so that method is wide open, and you might as well be giving your application away. As I discussed with Steff, security is not 100%, some people are going to be knowledgable enough to obtain installed applications, even from Android Market. At SlideME, we will do our best to protect paid content. If there are any security issues that people find, let us know and we will address them. We also have a project that has been under development that I hope will address some of these additional concerns next month. When I was involved in a J2ME provisioning server launch at a US carrier, a number of years ago, a lot of the same concerns existed. Ultimately the fraud rate was pretty low and the carrier did quiet well. Eventually, they implemented things like forward locking, to address the concerns of major content providers. The decision lies strictly in the expected fraud rate and how much the developer is willing to pay to protect themselves. That is largely a personal call. Paying an extra 20-25% to insure that the application can't be forwarded to another user, when the fraud rate is 5%, wouldn't justify it. If you are thinking 30% fraud rate it will. But typically fraud rates are not nearly that high in mobile. Most people aren't motivated enough and wouldn't trust an app from an unknown source. People really do pay for applications in mobile. Thanks, Shane On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Joel Knighton <[email protected]>wrote: > What's this about Android Market not being available on developer phones? > Based on the developer phone sitting next to me, I'm going to have to say > that's just not true. Android Market is definitely available on developer > phones. > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Michael MacDonald < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I believe applications are written to a directory on the phone that is >> not visible to normal users (via unix permissions). If you have a >> developer phone (which gives you root access) you could access it. >> I think that's oneof the reasons Android Market is not available on >> the developer phones. >> >> I don't know what SlideMe's policy is, but I think in general if you >> make your application installer available to people who have root access >> to their phones,they will be able to get the .apk and potentially make >> it available to anyone with the SDK to install. >> >> Steff wrote: >> > Hi >> > >> > I am thing about releasing my application on SlideMe. I have talked to >> > someone with SlideMe, and they tell me that priced application is just >> > installed on the device itself. I asked them how they prevent people >> > from just copying the application to another phone - for instance >> > using some filebrowser app for Andoid. They tell me that the >> > applications are stored as "private" and that they cannot be copied, >> > but I dont quit understand. Is there some feature in Android letting >> > applications (for instance SlideMe's SAM), copy files to the device, >> > files that cannot be copied, but can be loaded to run? >> > If yes, please direct me to some documentation/explanation of that >> > feature! >> > >> > Regards, Per Steffensen >> > > >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Joel Knighton > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
