Hi Joel, Can you download PacMan from the Android Market? Then type: "adb pull /data/app-private/com.NamcoNetworks.PacMan.apk" See if you can grab that guy off. Or if anyone else with a dev phone, if they have time.
Thanks, Shane On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Joel Knighton <[email protected]>wrote: > Shane, Although I had not yet attempted to do so, it looks as if your > question was already answered. If you need any more information about > application installation on the ADP1, feel free to email me personally or > post to the list. > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]>wrote: > >> A third party application installed on even a locked G1 can be retrieved >> from it with a simple "adb pull" (you just need to know its package name) or >> programmatically by retrieving its information from the PackageManager and >> opening and reading the .apk file path it tells you. >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Shane Isbell <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi Joel, >>> >>> Are you able to pull the applications that have been installed through >>> Android Market off of the device on the dev phone? SAM is using the system >>> installer, so it will be the same as Android Market. >>> >>> We are limiting paid purchases to just the device. Secure for G1, but >>> interesting to see what the implications are on the dev phone. Web installs, >>> like through Handango or AndroidGuys, go straight to /sdcard/downloads, so >>> that method is wide open, and you might as well be giving your application >>> away. >>> >>> As I discussed with Steff, security is not 100%, some people are going to >>> be knowledgable enough to obtain installed applications, even from Android >>> Market. At SlideME, we will do our best to protect paid content. If there >>> are any security issues that people find, let us know and we will address >>> them. We also have a project that has been under development that I hope >>> will address some of these additional concerns next month. >>> >>> When I was involved in a J2ME provisioning server launch at a US carrier, >>> a number of years ago, a lot of the same concerns existed. Ultimately the >>> fraud rate was pretty low and the carrier did quiet well. Eventually, they >>> implemented things like forward locking, to address the concerns of major >>> content providers. The decision lies strictly in the expected fraud rate and >>> how much the developer is willing to pay to protect themselves. That is >>> largely a personal call. Paying an extra 20-25% to insure that the >>> application can't be forwarded to another user, when the fraud rate is 5%, >>> wouldn't justify it. If you are thinking 30% fraud rate it will. But >>> typically fraud rates are not nearly that high in mobile. Most people aren't >>> motivated enough and wouldn't trust an app from an unknown source. People >>> really do pay for applications in mobile. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shane >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Joel Knighton >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> What's this about Android Market not being available on developer >>>> phones? Based on the developer phone sitting next to me, I'm going to have >>>> to say that's just not true. Android Market is definitely available on >>>> developer phones. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Michael MacDonald < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I believe applications are written to a directory on the phone that is >>>>> not visible to normal users (via unix permissions). If you have a >>>>> developer phone (which gives you root access) you could access it. >>>>> I think that's oneof the reasons Android Market is not available on >>>>> the developer phones. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know what SlideMe's policy is, but I think in general if you >>>>> make your application installer available to people who have root >>>>> access >>>>> to their phones,they will be able to get the .apk and potentially make >>>>> it available to anyone with the SDK to install. >>>>> >>>>> Steff wrote: >>>>> > Hi >>>>> > >>>>> > I am thing about releasing my application on SlideMe. I have talked >>>>> to >>>>> > someone with SlideMe, and they tell me that priced application is >>>>> just >>>>> > installed on the device itself. I asked them how they prevent people >>>>> > from just copying the application to another phone - for instance >>>>> > using some filebrowser app for Andoid. They tell me that the >>>>> > applications are stored as "private" and that they cannot be copied, >>>>> > but I dont quit understand. Is there some feature in Android letting >>>>> > applications (for instance SlideMe's SAM), copy files to the device, >>>>> > files that cannot be copied, but can be loaded to run? >>>>> > If yes, please direct me to some documentation/explanation of that >>>>> > feature! >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, Per Steffensen >>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Joel Knighton >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dianne Hackborn >> Android framework engineer >> [email protected] >> >> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to >> provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public >> forums, where I and others can see and answer them. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Joel Knighton > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

