Well, bear in mind that I was about to install the application just for
helping you for free, so I am actually not interested on it enough to read
the app description...

Anyway I realized after writing my previous message that N7 has no phone at
all, so that permission has no effect neither... so I installed the app and
it actually SHOWS the menu soft button at bottom right as expected. May be
some users are just "special"...
On Sep 20, 2012 12:26 AM, "Keith Wiley" <kbwi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OYE!  We're off topic and this is a very common complaint.  People butt
> heads with me over the permissions all. the. time.  It's so frustrating.  I
> do the best I can to explain these things up front on the Android Market
> (or "Google Play" [worst name ever]) but the Google Play interface is not
> amenable to disseminating this kind of information efficiently.  For
> example, I offer an explanation for the various permissions right there on
> Google Play in the app description, but people don't read it anyway...and
> then they give me a hard time about the permissions even though I explained
> before they ever install the app!  I can't stand it!!! :-D
> <laughing-at-the-absurdity-of-the-situation>
>
> The app is a spreadsheet.  The ability to jump to the phone dialer was a
> specific user request (not even my idea) to enable users to tap phone
> numbers in spread sheets and jump to the dialer app to easy calling.  It's
> really quite an intuitive concept when you think about it, I thought it was
> a fantastic suggestion from a user interfaced point of view, but you
> honestly would not believe how much grief I've gotten over it.
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:09:30 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote:
>>
>> Why it needs permission to call phone numbers? I rather like to try it on
>> my N7, but no with such permission, indeed.
>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:53 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Shead Spreet Lite.  I would also be curious about WildSpectra Mobile
>>> Lite.  Since they are built in very similar ways (w.r.t. the basic OS
>>> framework and model) I expect their menu behavior to be similar such that
>>> verifying with either one should inform me about both...I presume.
>>>
>>> Thanks a bunch!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:47:56 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What's your app? Is on Google play?
>>>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's fair.  I'm not denying the the current release is a
>>>>> little old and targets older SDKs.  The app could certainly benefit from
>>>>> some sprucing up.  However, I wanted to verify whether the app *should*
>>>>> essentially work on modern hardware given that some users were emailing me
>>>>> saying they didn't know how to access the menus.  There's a big difference
>>>>> between saying I ought to update my app when I get a chance to keep things
>>>>> smooth and modern and saying the app is effectively broken on modern
>>>>> hardware and won't work  until I release an emergency patch to get it 
>>>>> going
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just trying to get a better picture of the circumstances.  I
>>>>> *think* this discussion has cleared it up, and I *think* my app should be
>>>>> working on modern devices, albeit through an OS sidedoor meant as a
>>>>> temporary fix until older apps are updated.  I'll have to try to find a
>>>>> Nexus to test it on myself to be absolutely certain of the circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:27:36 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What Mark said is that you did things the "standard" way, users
>>>>>> without hard menu button will see a soft one. But if you did it another
>>>>>> way, it won't be shown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you should update your app.
>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:08 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58:42 PM UTC-7, bob wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Many of the latest Android devices have eliminated the hard menu
>>>>>>>>> key found on earlier hardware. Consequently, it's now the 
>>>>>>>>> responsibility of
>>>>>>>>> app developers to include soft menu keys in their apps. *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Um, forgive me, but this response seems fundamentally at odds with
>>>>>>> Mark's initial response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which response is closer to the correct answer?  Is my app
>>>>>>> inherently broken on such devices or not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
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>>
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