Everything you cay about command line vs. Eclipse window could be true yet 
there would still be one overwhelming advantage for the command line: the 
Eclipse UI and documentation for how to do all this filtering is limited 
and put in odd places; it is much easier to find out how to use 
command-line redirection and grep on command-line output, and those are 
both well documented. The documentation is easy to find, too.

Also, when the Eclipse window simply fails to display the logcat output, I 
can never figure out why (except for one case: when 'Device' got 
mysteriously de-selected, which should never happen but does happen). When 
the command-line fails to display it, I can easily figure out why.

On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:57:10 AM UTC-7, Lew wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 2:36:34 AM UTC-7, gjs wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> "debug messages" was to imply anything emitted by locat, System.out.. , 
>> System.err.. , printStackTrace from Exception etc
>>
>> And yes it's the same whether through Eclipse or otherwise, I suggested 
>> it can be painful when debugging in Eclipse with some real (non Google 
>> sponsored) devices that emit an excessive amount of these messages to find 
>> your own messages within that mess, filtering and redirecting to file and 
>> grep and changing buffer sizes and other time wasting [sic] steps aside. 
>> Some of the carrier sourced devices fill the default Eclipse buffer in a 
>> minute or so, particularly when GPS is on, the Google devices Galaxy S, 
>> Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 don't.  
>>
>>>
> As you say, the volume of output can be excessive, but if so, it's the 
> same excess as in command line.
>
> I don't believe the steps to filter output and adjust buffer sizes can be 
> considered time wasting. Time 
> is wasted if it produces less value than it costs. These steps produce 
> more value than they cost.
>
> While I normally use only command line myself, I find the Eclipse logcat 
> window to be very flexible. It has all
> sorts of convenient tools to help you filter your messages, so if anything 
> folks would find it easier to use
> than command line, contrary to your conclusions. It lets you dynamically 
> filter on debug level, process id (pid), 
> regexes, app, tag or specific text. AFAICT it's infinite, so buffer size 
> is a non-issue, and it has buttons 
> to save the output and manage your filters.
>
> YMMV, but I don't recommend scaring people off the Eclipse logcat window.
>
> -- 
> Lew
>
>

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