And I did dig into the sources. App is permanently killed, except for
manifest registered events (unverified) and alarms. So any sticky device
not relying on those is a dead service. In 4.4.x only that is.

I found a work around but its so dirty I wait for a better option if any
before posting.
Le 14 déc. 2013 17:37, "Kristopher Micinski" <krismicin...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Just as a note: you're being fairly condescending to people who are
> suggesting solutions to you free of charge in a pretty polite way..
>
> I personally don't know what the semantics of the swipe away are: but
> I wouldn't be surprised if it were to kill the app.  I am not sure
> whether or not I'd call it a bug or not (I'd personally lean toward
> not) but it's obvious you feel differently.  If nobody else
> (presumably, someone who's read the source..) responds to this you
> could always dig through the system source to find out!
>
> Kris
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 6:59 AM, 3c <ccouno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks but I'm fully aware of this and as the title suggest I'm
> referring to
> > swiping an app from the recent task list. Not sure how this has anything
> to
> > do with this.
> >
> > On Android 4.4, the recent task list is now acting like a force-stop and
> > that's a definitive and obvious bug. And this behavior is anything but
> what
> > end-users do expect when removing apps from recent list. I've already
> > received a dozen reports from end-users who think my app stops
> functioning
> > unexpectedly, while they only swiped it away from the recent list, they
> > expect its services to continue running!
> >
> > How nice this is when an app actually has widgets on the launcher? Those
> > simply stop refreshing forever! If that's not a bug, I guess Android OS
> and
> > my app both have 0 bug. I'll make sure to refer my users to your posts so
> > they understand there's no bug!
> >
> > Have a read at these:
> >
> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html#onTaskRemoved(android.content.Intent)
> >
> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/ServiceInfo.html#FLAG_STOP_WITH_TASK
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 13, 2013 4:25:42 AM UTC+1, RichardC wrote:
> >>
> >> Have a read of:
> >>
> >> Launch controls on stopped applications in
> >> http://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-3.1.html
> >>
> >> Note that it says:
> >> "Applications are in a stopped state when they are first installed but
> are
> >> not yet launched and when they are manually stopped by the user (in
> Manage
> >> Applications)."
> >>
> >> This was introduced in 3.1 before we had swiping away.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Friday, December 13, 2013 1:22:27 AM UTC, 3c wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I cannot agree with this as the recent task list in no way suggest
> >>> killing the apps. Actually every users seems to see it differently.
> Some
> >>> take that recent task list as the name suggest, recent tasks and
> activities,
> >>> others see it as you suggest an app killing, but most users don't know
> >>> what's actually happening when removing a task from that list.
> >>>
> >>> Furthermore that list doesn't actually reflect apps still running, but
> >>> the recent tasks or apps used by end-user. On boot I may have a dozen
> apps
> >>> running, but no way to kill them (except going into settings,
> force-stop) if
> >>> I haven't started them once, making this task killer the worse I've
> ever
> >>> seen: it requires end-user to open the app before being able to kill it
> >>> permanently! And it's not because I remove a task from that very list
> that I
> >>> don't want its services to continue running.
> >>>
> >>> Looking at documentation for the Service class and the related manifest
> >>> attributes definitely confirm the behavior of Android 4.0 to 4.3:
> >>>
> >>> With Android 4.4, the below flag is now ineffective, which falls into
> the
> >>> bug category, not the other way around as you suggest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> public static final int stopWithTask
> >>> Added in API level 14
> >>>
> >>> If set to true, this service with be automatically stopped when the
> user
> >>> remove a task rooted in an activity owned by the application. The
> default is
> >>> false.
> >>>
> >>> Must be a boolean value, either "true" or "false".
> >>>
> >>> public void onTaskRemoved (Intent rootIntent)
> >>>
> >>> Added in API level 14
> >>>
> >>> This is called if the service is currently running and the user has
> >>> removed a task that comes from the service's application. If you have
> set
> >>> ServiceInfo.FLAG_STOP_WITH_TASK then you will not receive this
> callback;
> >>> instead, the service will simply be stopped.
> >>>
> >>>
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