Market currently gives us an unrivalled channel to get our service 
infront of Android users, and we can see competitors using it to quickly 
gain a foot hold, so it's something that has to either be part of the 
rollout or we'll have to increase spending on marketing and PR by an 
order of magnitude to try and reach the same audience, which doesn't 
make financial sense.

That said, if Koolu ship the half million plus units they're predicting 
with the AndAppStore client installed, that may give us a viable route 
to a significant market with no payment method restrictions and we may 
start work again.

Al.


nEx.Software wrote:
> Just out of curiosity... Why not simply sell from outside of the
> Market?
> I understand it is not as convenient to do so but maybe is the
> solution for you?
>
> Do we know what TeleNav is doing? Can't you follow their subscription
> model?
>
> On Feb 19, 10:11 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>   
>> The application we were working on would not be of any use without the
>> user subscribing to the service and therefore any payments collected
>> could voilate the "This should not be used as an alternative means to
>> the Android MarketPayment Processor to collect payment for usage of
>> applications." piece from text you've quoted.
>>
>> The service was very much orientated around the Android OS, so access
>> from other platforms would be of limited use, which would re-enforce any
>> claim by Google that payments for the service were actually a payments
>> for using the application, even if we gave the application away for free.
>>
>> Al.
>>
>>
>>
>> dar wrote:
>>     
>>> Thehttp://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html
>>> states:
>>>       
>>> "Developers should only charge for applications and downloads from
>>> Android Market through the Market's Payment Processor. Developers may
>>> offer free applications as access points to paid services for which
>>> customers have registered and provided payment information. This
>>> should not be used as an alternative means to the Android Market
>>> Payment Processor to collect payment for usage of applications. "
>>>       
>>> This is on my company's roadmap, so I'm curious how you came to the
>>> conclusion that this is not allowed.
>>>       
>>> You'll just have to find a different payment processor to do your paid
>>> services, and it shouldn't be hard to find one that will do
>>> subscriptions.  You just need to be careful about separating the
>>> payment between the services and the android application.  Such that
>>> if you offer the android app for free - you can never charge for the
>>> android app, only the data & services it consumes.
>>>       
>>> On Feb 19, 8:30 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Well, after a meeting of the directors, my company has just decided to
>>>> shelve a project that was in development due to the short commings of
>>>> Market and it's T&Cs.
>>>>         
>>>> The project was going to offer a subscription service and would have met
>>>> the all the criteria for being listed on Market, but Market clearly
>>>> can't handle subscription services. We considered the
>>>> app-per-subscription period approach but that would mean that Google
>>>> would have a claim to 30% of all subscription fees and because the
>>>> subscription fees were planned to be less than $10 per billing period
>>>> Google would also have the right to refund a users subscription fee at
>>>> any time without consulting us.
>>>>         
>>>> So I'd be interested to know who else is in this boat because I think
>>>> it's something that Google need to be made aware of so that can start
>>>> addressing the problem.
>>>>         
>>>> Al.
>>>>         
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>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>
>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> subsidiaries.
>>     
> >
>   


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