Wow. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Java Developer <supp...@cyntacks.com> wrote: > > Al, > > We finally made the decision to pull the plug too. There are about 10 > different reasons all related to how Google has handled everything > over the past year. From complete absence of communication, to the > lack of RC33 on ADP1, and the terrible return/refund policy put us > over the top. If we wanted to create a free trial period we would > have! We just kicked out our second app half finished, put it on the > market, and closed up our Android development. > > It is sad that Google could mess this up so badly, but then again, are > we that surprised that a company which releases everything in Beta > couldn't get this right? Well, let's hope Microsoft and Blackberry > learn from Google's mistake because we have now moved our Android guys > to these other devices. > > I hope we can come back to the platform, but as of now Google is just > to immature to support it. > > Kevin > - Show quoted text - > > > On Feb 19, 12:38 pm, "nEx.Software" <justin.shapc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Definitely an understandable concern. >> >> On Feb 19, 10:30 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >> >> > Market currently gives us an unrivalled channel to get our service >> > infront of Android users, and we can see competitors using it to quickly >> > gain a foot hold, so it's something that has to either be part of the >> > rollout or we'll have to increase spending on marketing and PR by an >> > order of magnitude to try and reach the same audience, which doesn't >> > make financial sense. >> >> > That said, if Koolu ship the half million plus units they're predicting >> > with the AndAppStore client installed, that may give us a viable route >> > to a significant market with no payment method restrictions and we may >> > start work again. >> >> > Al. >> >> > nEx.Software wrote: >> > > Just out of curiosity... Why not simply sell from outside of the >> > > Market? >> > > I understand it is not as convenient to do so but maybe is the >> > > solution for you? >> >> > > Do we know what TeleNav is doing? Can't you follow their subscription >> > > model? >> >> > > On Feb 19, 10:11 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >> >> > >> The application we were working on would not be of any use without the >> > >> user subscribing to the service and therefore any payments collected >> > >> could voilate the "This should not be used as an alternative means to >> > >> the Android MarketPayment Processor to collect payment for usage of >> > >> applications." piece from text you've quoted. >> >> > >> The service was very much orientated around the Android OS, so access >> > >> from other platforms would be of limited use, which would re-enforce any >> > >> claim by Google that payments for the service were actually a payments >> > >> for using the application, even if we gave the application away for >> > >> free. >> >> > >> Al. >> >> > >> dar wrote: >> >> > >>> Thehttp://www.android.com/market/terms/developer-content-policy.html >> > >>> states: >> >> > >>> "Developers should onlychargefor applications and downloads from >> > >>> Android Market through the Market's Payment Processor. Developers may >> > >>> offer free applications as access points to paid services for which >> > >>> customers have registered and provided payment information. This >> > >>> should not be used as an alternative means to the Android Market >> > >>> Payment Processor to collect payment for usage of applications. " >> >> > >>> This is on my company's roadmap, so I'm curious how you came to the >> > >>> conclusion that this is not allowed. >> >> > >>> You'll just have to find a different payment processor to do your paid >> > >>> services, and it shouldn't be hard to find one that will do >> > >>> subscriptions. You just need to be careful about separating the >> > >>> payment between the services and the android application. Such that >> > >>> if you offer the android app for free - you can neverchargefor the > - Show quoted text - >> > >>> android app, only the data & services it consumes. >> >> > >>> On Feb 19, 8:30 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>> Well, after a meeting of the directors, my company has just decided to >> > >>>> shelve a project that was in development due to the short commings of >> > >>>> Market and it's T&Cs. >> >> > >>>> The project was going to offer a subscription service and would have >> > >>>> met >> > >>>> the all the criteria for being listed on Market, but Market clearly >> > >>>> can't handle subscription services. We considered the >> > >>>> app-per-subscription period approach but that would mean that Google >> > >>>> would have a claim to 30% of all subscription fees and because the >> > >>>> subscription fees were planned to be less than $10 per billing period >> > >>>> Google would also have the right to refund a users subscription fee at >> > >>>> any time without consulting us. >> >> > >>>> So I'd be interested to know who else is in this boat because I think >> > >>>> it's something that Google need to be made aware of so that can start >> > >>>> addressing the problem. >> >> > >>>> Al. >> >> > >>>> -- >> > >>>> ====== >> > >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> > >>>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> > >>>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> > >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> > >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> > >>>> subsidiaries. >> >> > >> -- >> > >> ====== >> > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> > >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> > >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> > >> subsidiaries. >> >> > -- >> > ====== >> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> > subsidiaries. > > >
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