Anyway, we've wandered far off-topic with little chance of coming back on-topic, this discussion should move to android-platform where it'd make more sense so that we don't bother people who are just trying to use the SDK.
JBQ, self-moderating. 2009/3/2 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>: > You don't need for wipe the data and cache partitions when flashing > the boot, recovery or system partitions. > > JBQ > > 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>: >> If you flash with the unlocked firmware you should delete the older first? >> And to format the partition? >> >> 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> >>> >>> That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware, >>> flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out. >>> >>> JBQ >>> >>> 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>: >>> > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1? >>> > >>> > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> >>> >> >>> >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that >>> >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, debuggable >>> >> system), you have essentially a consumer device. >>> >> >>> >> JBQ >>> >> >>> >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of >>> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a >>> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone. There is >>> >> >> no >>> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on >>> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those >>> >> >> of us who paid the $25? >>> >> > Totally agree! >>> >> > >>> >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1. >>> >> > You >>> >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for >>> >> > the >>> >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash >>> >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution... >>> >> > >>> >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have 2 >>> >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally unlocked, >>> >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will lock >>> >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of >>> >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which control >>> >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will be >>> >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution? JQB? >>> >> > >>> >> > On 1 Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an interesting >>> >> >> direction. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting. Hopefully we still >>> >> >> have some official Google person's attention. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met >>> >> >> when >>> >> >> it comes to stuff like this. We're all developers here and I'm sure >>> >> >> we've all experienced this. I would agree though that I think the >>> >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a >>> >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of >>> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a >>> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone. There is >>> >> >> no >>> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on >>> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those >>> >> >> of us who paid the $25? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better >>> >> >> informed. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Thanks >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Feb 28, 1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method >>> >> >> > > circulating >>> >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to >>> >> >> > > get >>> >> >> > > a >>> >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions >>> >> >> > > (if >>> >> >> > > there >>> >> >> > > is I'd welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the >>> >> >> > > flaw >>> >> >> > > it >>> >> >> > > uses). >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would emerge >>> >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being >>> >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the >>> >> >> > system >>> >> >> > to >>> >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release a >>> >> >> > new >>> >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps >>> >> >> > along >>> >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who >>> >> >> > don't >>> >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding extra >>> >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier >>> >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to defeat >>> >> >> > the >>> >> >> > system. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > Jon >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Jean-Baptiste M. 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