Start a topic there: http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/a1b7fb4cda42e807 Hope it is not threated as spam :)
On 3 Март, 00:22, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote: > Anyway, we've wandered far off-topic with little chance of coming back > on-topic, this discussion should move to android-platform where it'd > make more sense so that we don't bother people who are just trying to > use the SDK. > > JBQ, self-moderating. > > 2009/3/2 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>: > > > > > You don't need for wipe the data and cache partitions when flashing > > the boot, recovery or system partitions. > > > JBQ > > > 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>: > >> If you flash with the unlocked firmware you should delete the older first? > >> And to format the partition? > > >> 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> > > >>> That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware, > >>> flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out. > > >>> JBQ > > >>> 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>: > >>> > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1? > > >>> > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> > > >>> >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that > >>> >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, debuggable > >>> >> system), you have essentially a consumer device. > > >>> >> JBQ > > >>> >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>: > > >>> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of > >>> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a > >>> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone. There is > >>> >> >> no > >>> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on > >>> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those > >>> >> >> of us who paid the $25? > >>> >> > Totally agree! > > >>> >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1. > >>> >> > You > >>> >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for > >>> >> > the > >>> >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash > >>> >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution... > > >>> >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have 2 > >>> >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally unlocked, > >>> >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will lock > >>> >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of > >>> >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which control > >>> >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will be > >>> >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution? JQB? > > >>> >> > On 1 Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an interesting > >>> >> >> direction. > > >>> >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting. Hopefully we still > >>> >> >> have some official Google person's attention. > > >>> >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met > >>> >> >> when > >>> >> >> it comes to stuff like this. We're all developers here and I'm sure > >>> >> >> we've all experienced this. I would agree though that I think the > >>> >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a > >>> >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates. > > >>> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of > >>> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a > >>> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone. There is > >>> >> >> no > >>> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on > >>> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those > >>> >> >> of us who paid the $25? > > >>> >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better > >>> >> >> informed. > > >>> >> >> Thanks > > >>> >> >> On Feb 28, 1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > >>> >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method > >>> >> >> > > circulating > >>> >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to > >>> >> >> > > get > >>> >> >> > > a > >>> >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions > >>> >> >> > > (if > >>> >> >> > > there > >>> >> >> > > is I'd welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the > >>> >> >> > > flaw > >>> >> >> > > it > >>> >> >> > > uses). > > >>> >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would emerge > >>> >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being > >>> >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the > >>> >> >> > system > >>> >> >> > to > >>> >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release a > >>> >> >> > new > >>> >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race. > > >>> >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps > >>> >> >> > along > >>> >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who > >>> >> >> > don't > >>> >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding extra > >>> >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier > >>> >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to defeat > >>> >> >> > the > >>> >> >> > system. > > >>> >> >> > -- > >>> >> >> > Jon > > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > >>> >> Android Engineer, Google. > > >>> >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to > >>> >> a public forum with no further warning. > > >>> -- > >>> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > >>> Android Engineer, Google. > > >>> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to > >>> a public forum with no further warning. > > > -- > > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > > Android Engineer, Google. > > > Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to > > a public forum with no further warning. > > -- > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > Android Engineer, Google. > > Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to > a public forum with no further warning. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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