Dave, There are a number of cases where the cupcake changes affect how UIs are rendered. Take, for example, the one I reported at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/48dc0 0dad63aac41 which does not use unfrozen/unstable APIs, does not involve permissions, and relates to an XML layout which renders differently between 1.0/1.1 and cupcake (and Romain was kind enough to confirm that the cupcake layout I saw is an accurate reflection of how the layout manager was suppose to work). This isn't just an API thing, there could be a number of developers who have stuck to the API guidelines yet get blindsided by changes in cupcake (see http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/msg/f060b726d81c207b for another example). Are you really expect that one or two weeks is enough for every app written to go through a testing procedure to check for problems? Al.
--- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. _____ From: android-developers@googlegroups.com [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Turner Sent: 13 April 2009 18:17 To: android-developers@googlegroups.com Subject: [android-developers] Re: SDKs & comparison with the iPhone On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: Dave, I'm not after G1 device images, I would be happy if I could get access to a fully working cupcake emulator, but no one in the public development community can. I said before the G1 launch I see Android as the platform, not the G1, Magic or any specific device implementation, but at the moment there is *nothing* which we can use to can prepare us for the imminent release of a cupcake device from an OHA member. Yes, and we have said pretty consistently that application developers should rather wait for an official cupcake SDK rather than try to build their own, if they want to avoid more frustration than they imagine. If you want to surf on the bleeding edge, the "generic-eng" build product in the master branch is the only thing you should try, and even this is a rocky road for an application developer, less so for a system integrator. Apart from that, we're still committed to providing a Cupcake SDK before devices ship, and we want to gradually but seriously reduce the gap between our internal tree and the public one. We have been doing that for quite some time but this is not directly visible. The Android team is currently doing many internal changes in the tools and processes it uses internally to reach this goal, but this takes some time, especially when you're trying to build shippable products at the same time. No one I know would recommend last minute rushed coding, but as every day goes past you're pushing developers further and further into that situation. Vodafone have set a date for the Cupcake powered device release and that's our deadline (which is just over 2 weeks away at best according to Vodafones website), and yet we still don't have *anything* which allows us to do full cupcake testing. The closest we can get is emulators with broken networking. I can tell you that most applications will work on Cupcake is they run on the 1.0 and 1.1 firmware images. The problematic ones are generally those who use unfrozen/unstable APIs, and developers have been warned well in advance that problems are to be expected. There may be a few corner cases, like some permissions being modified or removed for system-level security reasons, but they should hopefully be exceptions and will be explicitely documented when the SDK is out. I have been dog-fooding cupcake builds for a while now, and I don't think I've encountered more than one application over 50+ that did have a problem on them. However anecdote is not data, so take that with a grain of salt. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
