Ok, let me answer some of these myself.

App sales sluggish - well android is still a growing platform, and yes
the latest improvements to the app store have helped, as well as all
the new phone releases as well, I'm seeing about double the orders per
day as before. Not to mention that we finally will probably actually
have customers that aren't also developers.

ADP - you can just get a droid phone and develop with it. The only
reason to have an ADP is so you can flash it with different ROMS. If
you want to test against Android 2.0 you can just use a DROID to
develop with. Any android device can be used for debugging and
development.

The Google market has improved over the last six months and will
likely improve again. Having on 325 characters may seem like a
restriction, but it does enable people's devices to download the data
faster, as well as preventing too much "spam" in their comments (like
keywords, and other garbage the is irrevlevant), that the apple Iphone
app store suffers from. Some of the apps I've looked at on the IPhone
store don't even say what they do in their description! It's usually a
little TOO long winded!

Rumor and conjecture - the rules and agreements between Google and
developers are quite clearly stated in the Developer agreement. Some
people want to read between the lines and have hissy fits about every
little detail. Maybe that is just the way programmers are. But it's
pretty much standard legal fare. A lot of what you may see on this
board is just whining about small details that may only affect a
minority of developers.

The IPhone system has its own flaws as well (approval process, etc).
And that system most likely is a take it or leave it agreement too. We
can't judge Google based on knowledge we DONT have. Speculation is
just that, speculation. I haven't seen any arguments that show the
opposing platforms advantages yet (like how their agreements work,
etc).

-niko


On Nov 13, 6:57 am, WoodManEXP <woodman...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We have spent significant time & energy and $$ producing several
> Android applications on the bet/hope it will be able to cut into the
> iPhone market. Unfortunately little is happening.
>
> - The apps sales are sluggish (the apps are hardly even being pirated
> as far as we can tell).
> - ADP cannot be updated to Android 2.0 yet Google has pushed hard for
> development to be updated to 2.0 and the Droid phone is released. How
> is one to test?
> - The Google Market seems ineffective. Consider limitations like the
> short app descriptions for instance. Google Market has a way to go to
> catch up with the magic of iTunes.
> - There is void of two-way communication between Google and the
> Android developer base so rumor and conjecture and trial and error
> prevail.
> - Distribution license agreement is updated in a take it or leave it
> fashion (with no meaningful explanation or attempt to point out
> changes). What was that all about?
>
> The list of this dings goes on. Understandably it is a huge
> undertaking for Google/Verizon/HTC/Developers and the others to launch
> Android and support it to go after the market Apple iPhone has proven.
> On the plus side the SDK and ADP is obviously something Google has
> invested heavily in and the basic Android system is, IMHO, superior to
> iPhone system. So that's all good. Hopefully these developer
> irritations are part of the growing pains and will quickly be
> resolved.

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