here's a screenshot http://forum.telefonino.net/showpost.php?p=7076917&postcount=715
On 18 Mar, 16:41, "Julien (JaXX) Banchet" <[email protected]> wrote: > Official statements > fromhttp://www.electronlibre.info/Demarrage-decevant-d-Android-chez,286 > : > « C’est effectivement un problème, reconnait Jean-Marie Culpin, mais > cette limitation n’est que temporaire. Nous avons choisi de > commercialiser le Dream sans possibilité de synchronisation des > contacts et de l’agenda pour un problème de stabilité. Nous comptons > mettre en ligne courant avril une mise à jour qui corrigera entre > autres ce problème. Elle sera suivie en mai d’une seconde mise à jour > qui apportera de nouvelles fonctionnalités. Les mises à jour seront > disponibles gratuitement pour tous les possesseurs du Dream ». > > "This is indeed a problem, says Jean-Marie Culpin, but this limitation > is temporary. We chose to market the Dream without the possibility of > synchronization of contacts and calendar due to a stability problem. > We intend to put online in April an update that corrects this problem > among others. It will be followed in May by a second update that will > bring new features. Updates will be available free to all owners of > the Dream" > > A stability problem... yeah right... > > and a bit further, especially looking at the localized keyboard... > what do you get: > Two "@" keys, the british pound key (not that we don't care about > british, but well...) > but no single or double quote key :-) yup, no ' or " ! > > Am I the only one laughing about this ? > > On Mar 18, 3:53 pm, "Julien (JaXX) Banchet" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Which also means Orange _could_ manage to push out a Cupcake update as > > soon as it's available before or around when SFR gets the G2 Magic to > > the masses end of April. > > > (But we all know that once updated, Orange will forget to provide new > > firmware after that, as they always do...) > > > On Mar 18, 11:57 am, "[email protected]" > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Here is somethin that seems quite clear to me. Orange is trying to > > > kill Androïd before it kicks there beloved Iphone. What else could > > > explain that Orange is selling G1 instead of G2 ? > > > > I think that they don't want to make androïd a success. Sell a G1 with > > > no app and everybody will say Androïd is no good then sell more > > > Iphones. And with help of god people will really think Androïd is bad > > > and don't buy any G2 at SFR's stores. > > > > Maketting wars. > > > > On Mar 17, 11:48 pm, "Julien (JaXX) Banchet" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From what I know (being in France, but as an soon ex-Orange customer): > > > > They crippled the data connection linked to the phone account, > > > > blocking syncable apps. > > > > > The reason advanced is that want to see how they'll figure how to > > > > manage an always connected phone (like if they haven't thought about > > > > it before). and could slowly open the tubes in the next days if all > > > > goes well... > > > > > Some peeps got G1's on eBay and have older subscriptions, without all > > > > the capping and so... and have no problem at all, like I had with my > > > > iPhone before it got stolen (and Orange's insurance refused to cover) > > > > and with which I had no trouble doing SSH and PPTP, and from what I > > > > heard, that is tougher to achieve nowadays. > > > > > Orange sucks, honestly, I know this could seem off topic, or even > > > > deserve a moderation, but the more time passes, the worse they get > > > > (the two other operators deserve as much kicks as the first one... and > > > > after a 500M€ fine, they're getting and extra 90M€ because of avoiding > > > > competition and aligning high prices together... all that while > > > > fighting to avoid a fourth one getting on the market, "Free" who is > > > > known to have brought France in OCDE's top internet charts with a 30€/ > > > > month 28Mbs ADSL2+ net+tv+phone all-you-can-eat offer > > > > )http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_(French_ISP) > > > > > JB, *ranting mood* :-) > > > > ./. > > > > > On Mar 17, 6:19 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I wish people would read the whole post before hitting reply ^^. > > > > > > In this case the important bit said; > > > > > > *I don't have the inside track, so I can't say for certain why the > > > > > apps > > > > > aren't available, I was just offering up some suggestions to show why > > > > > we > > > > > shouldn't assume they're withholding the apps just because they want > > > > > to.* > > > > > > As for the rest of Disconnects post, well, sounds a lot like what I > > > > > said > > > > > several weeks ago > > > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/f...) > > > > > > Al. > > > > > > Disconnect wrote: > > > > > > ..the sky is blue. (Look! I can spit out random unrelated facts > > > > > > also!) > > > > > > > If it is illegal to do contact sync from France to google, as was > > > > > > suggested, then those apps would be illegal. They are not. > > > > > > > If google was putting it's effort into ANDROID (instead of just > > > > > > being > > > > > > an outsourced code shop for the OHA members) you would have at least > > > > > > as good - if not better - access to google services from -any- > > > > > > android > > > > > > device. Instead, your best bet is to get a blackberry or iphone and > > > > > > use the freely available google and 3rd party sync apps. > > > > > > > To drag this forcibly back to the original topic :) I think it'll be > > > > > > quite entertaining to watch this phone fail. (Or, alternately - more > > > > > > likely - to learn that this was a chicken-little incident and the > > > > > > retail devices do or shortly will have all the usual google apps..) > > > > > > "Android" won't succeed without google AND a community. Hopefully > > > > > > google will realize that you need to help the community instead.. > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Fred Grott <[email protected] > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > Blackberry uses j2me android doe s not .. > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Disconnect > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > You forgot something important - those countries can still > > > > > > use > > > > > > the j2me gmail client (and istr there are some decent 3rd > > > > > > party contact/calendar sync apps for most phones as well..) > > > > > > > Tangentially, its interesting (in a sad kind of way) that my > > > > > > wife's blackberry (with no push account configured) has > > > > > > better > > > > > > access to google services than my "google phone" running > > > > > > master (or, evidently, anyone using the dream in France.) > > > > > > She > > > > > > gets automatic calendar sync, decent multi-account gmail > > > > > > access (not just the imap mess) and contact sync. I get .. > > > > > > um.. imap access. And thats it. :( > > > > > > > (All the apps she uses to do that are free, fyi.) > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Al Sutton > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Some countries have "interesting" privacy laws relating > > > > > > to > > > > > > personal data > > > > > > (i.e. contacts) For example; In the EU it's illegal to > > > > > > transmit personal > > > > > > data from from a device within EU to a location where > > > > > > there isn't an > > > > > > equivalent protection on personal data (you can get an > > > > > > idea of the fun > > > > > > that caused for US/EU data transfers at > > > > > > http://www.out-law.com/page-691). > > > > > > > I don't have the inside track, so I can't say for > > > > > > certain > > > > > > why the apps > > > > > > aren't available, I was just offering up some > > > > > > suggestions > > > > > > to show why we > > > > > > shouldn't assume they're withholding the apps just > > > > > > because > > > > > > they want to. > > > > > > > Al. > > > > > > > pod wrote: > > > > > > > What legal reasons ? > > > > > > > If it's legal to access gmail on web, then it's legal > > > > > > to > > > > > > download > > > > > > > gmail from the market ... > > > > > > > > On Mar 17, 10:14 am, Al Sutton <[email protected] > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > >> I'm guessing that legal reasons prevent them from > > > > > > doing > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > >> Even I don't believe they are withholding them just > > > > > > for > > > > > > the sake of it. > > > > > > >> I'm pretty sure it's either to do with the use of > > > > > > code > > > > > > they don't have a > > > > > > >> license to distribute in all regions (as is the case > > > > > > I > > > > > > beleive with the > > > > > > >> multi-IM client that comes on US G1s), or they don't > > > > > > have a license to > > > > > > >> use certain data sets in all regions, or they're not > > > > > > sure that the > > > > > > >> applications comply with local legislation (as could > > > > > > be > > > > > > the case with > > > > > > >> French privacy laws an the missing sync stuff). > > > > > > > >> Al. > > > > > > > >> whitemice wrote: > > > > > > > >>> At this point Google should start distributing their > > > > > > own apps over the > > > > > > >>> App market like everyone else. > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > >> * Written an Android App? - List it > > ... > > leggi tutto --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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