..the sky is blue. (Look! I can spit out random unrelated facts also!)

If it is illegal to do contact sync from France to google, as was suggested,
then those apps would be illegal. They are not.

If google was putting it's effort into ANDROID (instead of just being an
outsourced code shop for the OHA members) you would have at least as good -
if not better - access to google services from -any- android device.
Instead, your best bet is to get a blackberry or iphone and use the freely
available google and 3rd party sync apps.

To drag this forcibly back to the original topic :) I think it'll be quite
entertaining to watch this phone fail. (Or, alternately - more likely - to
learn that this was a chicken-little incident and the retail devices do or
shortly will have all the usual google apps..)  "Android" won't succeed
without google AND a community. Hopefully google will realize that you need
to help the community instead..

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Fred Grott <[email protected]> wrote:

> Blackberry uses j2me android doe s not ..
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Disconnect <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> You forgot something important - those countries can still use the j2me
>> gmail client (and istr there are some decent 3rd party contact/calendar sync
>> apps for most phones as well..)
>>
>> Tangentially, its interesting (in a sad kind of way) that my wife's
>> blackberry (with no push account configured) has better access to google
>> services than my "google phone" running master (or, evidently, anyone using
>> the dream in France.) She gets automatic calendar sync, decent multi-account
>> gmail access (not just the imap mess) and contact sync. I get .. um.. imap
>> access. And thats it. :(
>>
>> (All the apps she uses to do that are free, fyi.)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Some countries have "interesting" privacy laws relating to personal data
>>> (i.e. contacts) For example; In the EU it's illegal to transmit personal
>>> data from from a device within EU to a location where there isn't an
>>> equivalent protection on personal data (you can get an idea of the fun
>>> that caused for US/EU data transfers at http://www.out-law.com/page-691
>>> ).
>>>
>>> I don't have the inside track, so I can't say for certain why the apps
>>> aren't available, I was just offering up some suggestions to show why we
>>> shouldn't assume they're withholding the apps just because they want to.
>>>
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>
>>> pod wrote:
>>> > What legal reasons ?
>>> > If it's legal to access gmail on web, then it's legal to download
>>> > gmail from the market ...
>>> >
>>> > On Mar 17, 10:14 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I'm guessing that legal reasons prevent them from doing that.
>>> >>
>>> >> Even I don't believe they are withholding them just for the sake of
>>> it.
>>> >> I'm pretty sure it's either to do with the use of code they don't have
>>> a
>>> >> license to distribute in all regions (as is the case I beleive with
>>> the
>>> >> multi-IM client that comes on US G1s), or they don't have a license to
>>> >> use certain data sets in all regions, or they're not sure that the
>>> >> applications comply with local legislation (as could be the case with
>>> >> French privacy laws an the missing sync stuff).
>>> >>
>>> >> Al.
>>> >>
>>> >> whitemice wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> At this point Google should start distributing their own apps over
>>> the
>>> >>> App market like everyone else.
>>> >>>
>>> >> --
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
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>>> >>
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ======
>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
>>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>>
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>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>>> subsidiaries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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