lol. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you don't like the Nexus One or don't want one, don't get one. > That's as simple as that :) > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Your speculation sounds very much like peoples feelings for the ADP1 when > it was launched, but it seems to also be stuck at 1.6 for now :). > > > > I'm not denying there are some nice features in the Nexus One (such as > 802.11n support), and some which may offer technical benefits (such as the > AMOLED screen), but, as a consumer 'phone, it's not really got anything > significant enough that makes me want to get one in for testing and > development. In fact, given the comments about the AMOLED screen I'd > probably keep away from it to avoid producing UIs which only look good on it > and looked washed out to users on most of the other Android devices. > > > > Al. > > -- > > > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Try http://andappstore.com/ * > > > > ====== > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > number 6741909. > > > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > > On 7 Jan 2010, at 10:38, gjs wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I think it is a bit premature to guess when X10 might get to V2.1. But > >> obvious that all the 'newer' oems will quickly make such promises. > >> > >> My concerns are based on the talk of HTC Hero etc getting to V2.0 ( or > >> V1.6 ) which has been promised for some months but still nothing > >> actual yet. > >> > >> OLED seems like a better UX from what Romain & Dianne have said as > >> well, less power 2. > >> > >> <speculation> > >> > >> But a big factor, I' m just guessing, is that Nexus One will have > >> latest and greatest 'reference' versions of android OTA'd 1st by > >> Google, b4 ALL others and will always be 'THE Google Experience' > >> untainted by the tweaks? of the oem's and the (damn) carriers. > >> > >> (tmobile G1 send this txt msg every hour - 01-07 20:12:54.042: INFO/ > >> MyFaves(972): sending msg: > >> > 16358279011664960001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 > >> to 453 - fortunately it's benign for me) > >> > >> Leveraging this 'defacto reference' situation will help Google keep > >> the oem's/carriers in line, which I think will help the consumer to > >> have a more consistent Android (Google) UX and reduce the > >> fragmentation oem's/carriers just can't resist... > >> > >> It is very disheartening reading the stories from consumers in Asia > >> etc buying an 'android' phone outright/unlocked and then finding its > >> got NO Google Market App, they feel ripped off and lay some blame for > >> this at Google, misguided, misled or otherwise. There's another future > >> iPhone user for these sorry tales, or someone else forced down the > >> rooted/risky/bricked/pirated paths when all they wanted/expected was > >> access to the Market apps... > >> > >> </speculation> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> I've honestly never had trouble using a Nexus One outdoor. The colors > >>> are indeed more saturated than on a G1 for instance, but the colors > >>> are much much closer to what you see on a desktop monitor. > >>> > >>> I spent a lot of time tweaking the colors of the wallpapers for G1 and > >>> Sapphire and I had to boost their saturation by up to 50% to get > >>> something that didn't look washed out. On Nexus One I didn't have to > >>> do anything to get something very close to the "original" image on a > >>> calibrated Dell monitor. > >>> > >>> The "issue" reported by Engadget is more about content production than > >>> the display itself: content produced for previous displays might have > >>> been over-saturated to compensate the lack of faithful color > >>> reproduction, which thus produces over-saturated (at least that's how > >>> it's perceived) images on Nexus One. > >>> > >>> The display itself is not necessarily to blame. Also, I wish we had > >>> support for color profiles to level the differences across devices :) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>> An AMOLED screen isn't necessarily better. There are reports of OLED > being difficult to read outdoors and having over bright colour reproduction > (both of which Engadget have reported as seeing on the Nexus One - > http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/), so the screen may > not be to your liking. > >>> > >>>> So from your list the only concrete advantage is a software one (i.e. > the Android version) which SE could address with an update (given the > release date I'd say it's a reasonable assumption they will), but the Nexus > Ones' downsides are hardware which can't be fixed unless you get a new > 'phone. > >>> > >>>> Al. > >>>> -- > >>> > >>>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > >>> > >>>> ====== > >>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. > >>> > >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > >>> > >>>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 04:32, gjs wrote: > >>> > >>>>> Hi, > >>> > >>>>>> I'm just wondering, what do people see as the appeal of the Nexus > One? > >>> > >>>>> A developer perspective from Australia, currently with t-mobile G1 & > >>>>> V1.6 (Optus 3g carrier). > >>> > >>>>> For me it has been a tossup between waiting for Sony X10 and Nexus > One > >>>>> - > >>> > >>>>> Sony X10: 8mp camera +, 854x480 +, TFT -, V1.6 - > >>> > >>>>> Nexus One: 5mp camera -, 800x480 +, OLED +, V2.1 + > >>> > >>>>> Droid is not an option for me as it is CDMA (only I think) and I do > >>>>> wish to switch carriers. ( I think cdma is s u x anyway ) > >>> > >>>>> Nexus One is right now (for some), Sony X10 is still to come. > >>> > >>>>> So with both G1 & N1 this spans more current android versions, I > could > >>>>> test across V1.6 and V2.1 ( with other access to V1.5 on a Hero ) > >>> > >>>>> Make sense ? ( and assuming V2.1 sdk is released soonish ) > >>> > >>>>> Regards > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 7, 10:52 am, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Considering that its firmware is replaceable, for all intents and > purposes > >>>>>> this *is* the dev phone 3. What else would you need? > >>> > >>>>>> -Josh > >>> > >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Zsolt Babak <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi Al, > >>> > >>>>>>> I don't see the point either. It is a good and fast phone, however > >>>>>>> that's all I can say about it. > >>>>>>> If it'd become the ADP3 I'd consider it, but as of today I'd rather > go > >>>>>>> for a Droid/Milestone for normal consumer use. > >>> > >>>>>>> The hardware is good, but not outstandingly good, and that's true > for > >>>>>>> Android 2.1 too. > >>> > >>>>>>> I'd be happier with the AOSP release of 2.1 in full... > >>>>>>> I'm really beginning to dislike this "new android release for a new > >>>>>>> device only, and after that we start releasing some of the code in > the > >>>>>>> future as opensource", am I the only one ? > >>> > >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 10:35 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I'm just wondering, what do people see as the appeal of the Nexus > One? > >>> > >>>>>>>> After seeing the presentation reports I didn't find anything that > made me > >>>>>>> go "Oh, wow". Most key features seemed like software updates which > could be > >>>>>>> made available on other devices, and as for the 'phone itself, I > didn't see > >>>>>>> anything that really set the world on fire. > >>> > >>>>>>>> Did I miss something? > >>> > >>>>>>>> Al.-- > >>> > >>>>>>>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > >>> > >>>>>>>> ====== > >>> > >>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company > >>>>>>> number 6741909. > >>> > >>>>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and > >>>>>>> not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or > >>>>>>> it's subsidiaries.On 6 Jan 2010, at 09:31, Fred Janon wrote:Yes, > same here. > >>>>>>> I hope Nexus will be offered as dev phone soon in Australia. I > don't even > >>>>>>> know if Dev Phone 1 is still available and what really would be the > point of > >>>>>>> buying one. > >>>>>>>> FredOn Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 05:37, gjs<[email protected] > >wrote:Hi, > >>>>>>>> Can you please make the Nexus One available as a DEV phone asap to > >>>>>>>> support developers worldwide. > >>>>>>>> It is extremely disappointing that I cannot purchase in Australia, > NO > >>>>>>>> paid apps, No Nexus One. > >>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>>>>>> "Android Discuss" group. > >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email > [email protected]. > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email > >>>>>>> [email protected]<toandroid-discuss%[email protected]><toandroid-discuss%2Bunsubscr > [email protected]> > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >>>>>>> groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > >>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>>>>>> "Android Discuss" group. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>> [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > <android-discuss%2Bunsubscribe@ googlegroups.com> > >>>>>>> . > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Discuss" group. > >>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > >>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > >>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Discuss" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > >>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Romain Guy > >>> Android framework engineer > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time > >>> to provide private support. 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