I understand your concern but this is the exact same issue that you face when you do desktop development. The variety of display technologies, the variety of settings they use and the variety of color profiles they use makes it pretty much impossible to get the same result everywhere. Trust me, I run into this issue every day when I process and publish photos :)
Note that the display technology on phones is not the only factor. All displays are not created equal and use a slightly different gamma, or white balance, or the user have different brightness/backlight settings, or they're using the phone outdoor, or in a very dark environment, etc. I think you are trying to create an issue where there's none. Like I said, until all phone displays come calibrated with proper color profiles (and Android and all of its libraries support colors management), you're going to have different colors across devices (and sometimes on a same device if all units are not produced with the same part for the display.) BTW, remember that Samsung shipped the Galaxy with an AMOLED display too ;-) On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > That's my personal plan :). > > My main concern with the bigger picture though is that we may find some > developers who only use a Nexus One for testing (because of its' association > with the Google brand) and end up delivering games and apps with colours that > looked washed out on pretty much every other Android device. > > Al. > -- > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Try http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company > number 6741909. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily > those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. > > On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:03, Romain Guy wrote: > >> If you don't like the Nexus One or don't want one, don't get one. >> That's as simple as that :) >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Your speculation sounds very much like peoples feelings for the ADP1 when >>> it was launched, but it seems to also be stuck at 1.6 for now :). >>> >>> I'm not denying there are some nice features in the Nexus One (such as >>> 802.11n support), and some which may offer technical benefits (such as the >>> AMOLED screen), but, as a consumer 'phone, it's not really got anything >>> significant enough that makes me want to get one in for testing and >>> development. In fact, given the comments about the AMOLED screen I'd >>> probably keep away from it to avoid producing UIs which only look good on >>> it and looked washed out to users on most of the other Android devices. >>> >>> Al. >>> -- >>> >>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Try http://andappstore.com/ * >>> >>> ====== >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company >>> number 6741909. >>> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >>> subsidiaries. >>> >>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 10:38, gjs wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I think it is a bit premature to guess when X10 might get to V2.1. But >>>> obvious that all the 'newer' oems will quickly make such promises. >>>> >>>> My concerns are based on the talk of HTC Hero etc getting to V2.0 ( or >>>> V1.6 ) which has been promised for some months but still nothing >>>> actual yet. >>>> >>>> OLED seems like a better UX from what Romain & Dianne have said as >>>> well, less power 2. >>>> >>>> <speculation> >>>> >>>> But a big factor, I' m just guessing, is that Nexus One will have >>>> latest and greatest 'reference' versions of android OTA'd 1st by >>>> Google, b4 ALL others and will always be 'THE Google Experience' >>>> untainted by the tweaks? of the oem's and the (damn) carriers. >>>> >>>> (tmobile G1 send this txt msg every hour - 01-07 20:12:54.042: INFO/ >>>> MyFaves(972): sending msg: >>>> 16358279011664960001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 >>>> to 453 - fortunately it's benign for me) >>>> >>>> Leveraging this 'defacto reference' situation will help Google keep >>>> the oem's/carriers in line, which I think will help the consumer to >>>> have a more consistent Android (Google) UX and reduce the >>>> fragmentation oem's/carriers just can't resist... >>>> >>>> It is very disheartening reading the stories from consumers in Asia >>>> etc buying an 'android' phone outright/unlocked and then finding its >>>> got NO Google Market App, they feel ripped off and lay some blame for >>>> this at Google, misguided, misled or otherwise. There's another future >>>> iPhone user for these sorry tales, or someone else forced down the >>>> rooted/risky/bricked/pirated paths when all they wanted/expected was >>>> access to the Market apps... >>>> >>>> </speculation> >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 7, 7:44 pm, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I've honestly never had trouble using a Nexus One outdoor. The colors >>>>> are indeed more saturated than on a G1 for instance, but the colors >>>>> are much much closer to what you see on a desktop monitor. >>>>> >>>>> I spent a lot of time tweaking the colors of the wallpapers for G1 and >>>>> Sapphire and I had to boost their saturation by up to 50% to get >>>>> something that didn't look washed out. On Nexus One I didn't have to >>>>> do anything to get something very close to the "original" image on a >>>>> calibrated Dell monitor. >>>>> >>>>> The "issue" reported by Engadget is more about content production than >>>>> the display itself: content produced for previous displays might have >>>>> been over-saturated to compensate the lack of faithful color >>>>> reproduction, which thus produces over-saturated (at least that's how >>>>> it's perceived) images on Nexus One. >>>>> >>>>> The display itself is not necessarily to blame. Also, I wish we had >>>>> support for color profiles to level the differences across devices :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> An AMOLED screen isn't necessarily better. There are reports of OLED >>>>>> being difficult to read outdoors and having over bright colour >>>>>> reproduction (both of which Engadget have reported as seeing on the >>>>>> Nexus One -http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/nexus-one-review/), so the >>>>>> screen may not be to your liking. >>>>> >>>>>> So from your list the only concrete advantage is a software one (i.e. >>>>>> the Android version) which SE could address with an update (given the >>>>>> release date I'd say it's a reasonable assumption they will), but the >>>>>> Nexus Ones' downsides are hardware which can't be fixed unless you get a >>>>>> new 'phone. >>>>> >>>>>> Al. >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* >>>>> >>>>>> ====== >>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company >>>>>> number 6741909. >>>>> >>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >>>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >>>>>> subsidiaries. >>>>> >>>>>> On 7 Jan 2010, at 04:32, gjs wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm just wondering, what do people see as the appeal of the Nexus One? >>>>> >>>>>>> A developer perspective from Australia, currently with t-mobile G1 & >>>>>>> V1.6 (Optus 3g carrier). >>>>> >>>>>>> For me it has been a tossup between waiting for Sony X10 and Nexus One >>>>>>> - >>>>> >>>>>>> Sony X10: 8mp camera +, 854x480 +, TFT -, V1.6 - >>>>> >>>>>>> Nexus One: 5mp camera -, 800x480 +, OLED +, V2.1 + >>>>> >>>>>>> Droid is not an option for me as it is CDMA (only I think) and I do >>>>>>> wish to switch carriers. ( I think cdma is s u x anyway ) >>>>> >>>>>>> Nexus One is right now (for some), Sony X10 is still to come. >>>>> >>>>>>> So with both G1 & N1 this spans more current android versions, I could >>>>>>> test across V1.6 and V2.1 ( with other access to V1.5 on a Hero ) >>>>> >>>>>>> Make sense ? ( and assuming V2.1 sdk is released soonish ) >>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 7, 10:52 am, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Considering that its firmware is replaceable, for all intents and >>>>>>>> purposes >>>>>>>> this *is* the dev phone 3. What else would you need? >>>>> >>>>>>>> -Josh >>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Zsolt Babak <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Al, >>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't see the point either. It is a good and fast phone, however >>>>>>>>> that's all I can say about it. >>>>>>>>> If it'd become the ADP3 I'd consider it, but as of today I'd rather go >>>>>>>>> for a Droid/Milestone for normal consumer use. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> The hardware is good, but not outstandingly good, and that's true for >>>>>>>>> Android 2.1 too. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'd be happier with the AOSP release of 2.1 in full... >>>>>>>>> I'm really beginning to dislike this "new android release for a new >>>>>>>>> device only, and after that we start releasing some of the code in the >>>>>>>>> future as opensource", am I the only one ? >>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 10:35 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I'm just wondering, what do people see as the appeal of the Nexus >>>>>>>>>> One? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After seeing the presentation reports I didn't find anything that >>>>>>>>>> made me >>>>>>>>> go "Oh, wow". Most key features seemed like software updates which >>>>>>>>> could be >>>>>>>>> made available on other devices, and as for the 'phone itself, I >>>>>>>>> didn't see >>>>>>>>> anything that really set the world on fire. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Did I miss something? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Al.-- >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ====== >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >>>>>>>>>> company >>>>>>>>> number 6741909. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and >>>>>>>>> not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or >>>>>>>>> it's subsidiaries.On 6 Jan 2010, at 09:31, Fred Janon wrote:Yes, same >>>>>>>>> here. >>>>>>>>> I hope Nexus will be offered as dev phone soon in Australia. I don't >>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>> know if Dev Phone 1 is still available and what really would be the >>>>>>>>> point of >>>>>>>>> buying one. >>>>>>>>>> FredOn Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 05:37, >>>>>>>>>> gjs<[email protected]>wrote:Hi, >>>>>>>>>> Can you please make the Nexus One available as a DEV phone asap to >>>>>>>>>> support developers worldwide. >>>>>>>>>> It is extremely disappointing that I cannot purchase in Australia, NO >>>>>>>>>> paid apps, No Nexus One. >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "Android Discuss" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >>>>>>>>> [email protected]<toandroid-discuss%2Bunsubscr >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// >>>>>>>>> groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "Android Discuss" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]<android-discuss%2Bunsubscribe@ >>>>>>>>> googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Android Discuss" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Android Discuss" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Romain Guy >>>>> Android framework engineer >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time >>>>> to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on >>>>> public forums, where I and others can see and answer them >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Android Discuss" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Android Discuss" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Romain Guy >> Android framework engineer >> [email protected] >> >> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time >> to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on >> public forums, where I and others can see and answer them >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Android Discuss" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Android Discuss" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en. > > > > -- Romain Guy Android framework engineer [email protected] Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them
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