thanks for sharing your findings John, I'm not aware of carrier devices, If i wanted bootloader unlocked device, i would buy something like Nexus 5/6 device (any device will do) , you can easily unlock the bootloader with simple command , flash what you want, including rooting with super su. https://developer.android.com/preview/download.html gives instructions on how to play with latest Android M. you can write/test any kind of app you are developing there. But if we are publishing this on google play keep in mind that all external devices still won't have root access.
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:46 AM, John Bonifas <[email protected]> wrote: > Nk...after hours and hours of scouring literally hundreds of 'cool' and > 'hot' and XDA and Android development and dozens of other websites - which > say NOTHING about this - I found the solution. > > It is not necessarily Google, nor the manufacturers. IT'S THE CARRIERS > that is the issue. > > There are actually TWO versions of a device that a carrier offers. There > is the CONSUMER version of the device. The bootloader is locked, the > Android ROM is stock and patched to hell (think Lollipop) to prevent > rooting. As it should be. > > And there is the DEVELOPER version of the device. It is usually double the > price of the consumer version, but the bootloader is unlocked, it can be > easily flashed and superSU 'd without bricking, and I bet the APIS are more > robust as well. THESE are the devices that certified, legitimate developers > want and are using, including Google employees. THESE are the devices that > Google employees and developers will support you with, and not ignore you. > On Aug 27, 2015 6:25 PM, "Kristian Erik Hermansen" < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Openvpn works just fine on iOS 8+ in factory configuration >> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 1:36 PM Jeffrey Walton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Jumbo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > @John, if you migrate to IOS , doesn't ios still need you to jailbreak >>> its >>> > device to gain admin privilege, does user apps still get root privilege >>> > there ? >>> >>> +1. He may be able to do something with iPhoneConfigurator, but I'm >>> not sure (I'd need to understand it a little more). >>> >>> Also, I tried to port a in-app VPN client to iOS a few years ago. It >>> did not work because Apple did not provide the socket control I needed >>> (I don't recall if I could not open the socket as raw, or if it was >>> missing key defines). That may have changed. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Android Security Discussions" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-security-discuss. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Android Security Discussions" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/android-security-discuss/b0WnXRuz0hw/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-security-discuss. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Security Discussions" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-security-discuss. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
