----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Bohlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Chad Brandon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Wouter Zoons'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: RE: [Andromda-devel] MMFs: The final battle continues!
Hi Chad, I see the new objects as facades for metaobjects. The decorator aspect is not as important as that - we decorate only because we want to avoid implementation inheritance. So, if you want the word "Facade" in the interface ... hmmm ... maybe, we could call the other two "FacadeRealizer" and "FacadeRealizerImpl"??? Or: FacadeLogic and FacadeLogicImpl? -- Ignore my check in...I'll revert back if we decide differently :) I do think its ugly...but again, these should be ignored by the user/developers (since as you say they are only there to avoid implementation inheritance)....but they do use the decorator pattern...correct?...so therefore they are decorators...thats the reason I wanted to keep "Decorator" in there. Don't you think thats more understandable from a developer's point of view? Although I do like FacadeLogic and FacadeLogicImpl too....how about I change to those names? In any case, I would not like to see "decorator" again. And: "FacadeDecorator" is ugly because we do not decorate facades, do we? Cheers... Matthias > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Chad Brandon > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 10:05 PM > To: Matthias Bohlen; 'Wouter Zoons' > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Andromda-devel] MMFs: The final battle continues! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Bohlen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Chad Brandon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Wouter Zoons'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:47 PM > Subject: RE: [Andromda-devel] MMFs: The final battle continues! > > > Hi all, > > good idea! The class in the facade model should be called > "cleanly", i.e. "Classifier". The interface should also be > called "Classifier", the facade could be called > "ClassifierFacade" and the implementation > "ClassifierFacadeImpl". I completely agree with that. > > ----- Matthias, I was actually thinking this: > ClassifierFacade (in our models and interfaces) > ClassifierFacadeDecorator (for the generated decorator of the > facade and ClassifierFacadeDecoractorImpl) for the the Impl > classes (I didn't want to use the metamodel name 'Classifier' > since it may be a pain to keep track of package names within > the code if we have the same exact name of the meta model > element)..which way do you think is better? > > Wouter: yes, we can leave out the "I" if we name the classes > like Chad suggested! > > Wouter: the three outlets are for interfaces > ("facade-interfaces"), generated implementations ("facades") > and hand-written implementations ("facade-impls"). > > It's good to have three pairs of eyes... :-) > Matthias > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chad > > Brandon > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:06 PM > > To: Wouter Zoons; 'Matthias Bohlen' > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Andromda-devel] MMFs: The final battle continues! > > > > > > Matthias, > > > > Could we give the interfaces the "clean" name (i.e. the > actual facade > > name), since that is the one people are going to be working > with. And > > name the generated facade > > decorators: <some facade name>Decoractor and then the impl of the > > facade decorator <some facade name>DecoratorImpl? I think > that would > > be easier to understand (since the names are more > descriptive of what > > they > > are) and really the generated decorator shouldn't be even seen..its > > the interfaces that should be documented/used. What do you say? > > > > Chad > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wouter Zoons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Matthias Bohlen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chad > > Brandon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 1:48 PM > > Subject: RE: [Andromda-devel] MMFs: The final battle continues! > > > > > > > It seems to work this time (locally I took all cartridges > > except meta > > > and bpm4struts from the build process and still need to fix the > > > bpm4struts code) > > > > > > Some comment though: > > > > > > 1. do we really want to prefix our interfaces with 'I', Visual > > > Age/Eclipse style ? I think we should stick to the widely > accepted > > > standard of placing a suffix on the implementation classes > > with 'Impl' > > > > > > You expose an object through an interface, why change the > > name of that > > > object when it is passed as an interface ? Shouldn't the > interface > > > have the cleanest name of them all ? > > > > > > > > 2. I need to put the 'facades', 'facade-impls' and > > 'facade-interfaces' > > > outlets in the build.xml where I use the andromda task... I was > > > wondering what the first one is needed for > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > Wouter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and > > deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD > software kit from > > IBM. 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