Thanks, Michael, inline On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 11:02:13PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > On 2020-06-23 10:31 p.m., internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-25 > > yes, I read the diffs :-) > > - This document describes a modular design for a self-forming, self- > - managing and self-protecting ACP, which is a virtual in-band network > - designed to be as independent as possible of configuration, > > + This document describes a modular design for a self-forming, self- > + managing and self-protecting ACP, which is a virtual out-of-band > + network designed to be as independent as possible of configuration, > > This change from being a virtual in-band network to a virtual out-of-band > network must have been in response to some comments... It seems a big change > in some ways. I guess it makes this text consistent with the abstract which > has said virtual out-of-band for awhile now. > > But, I do have to wonder if we are creating confusion by claiming that this > is an out-of-band mechanism, even though it's really an in-band mechanism.
Its in-band with the physcial component, it is out-of-band with the configuration of the Data-Plane. Go figure how you compress that into a single term that most logically captures this. I have been using virtual out-of-band network forever for this, and Joels review pointed out that it was not done consistently in the text. > It's just virtually-out. > > I actually do want to start a bike-shed issue here? With a question mark. Does that mean you do or you do not ? > Are we describing ourself wrong? Maybe there is some portmanteau that would > be more accurate? I think that the above sentence is essentially the > elevator pitch for all of ANIMA. I am not sure if i would elevate it to "all of ANIMA", but i agree that it is an elevator term for ACP. It is mostly focussed on operators that would at least heart of actual out-of-band network or have one themselves. > There is also a bunch of other text that has been added to the Introduction, > which I think confuses more than it enlightens. > Or at least needs a better copy-edit. Sure, please propose better text. > A number of other new sections (9.4..) need a copy-edit to fix some missing > words. I will try to help Toerless with that via github. Thanks Cheers Toerless _______________________________________________ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima