On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

Carlos

I've absolutely zero issue with new people engaging, but lots of one line "+1" 
or almost identical emails isn't meaningful engagement.

Hi,

As i understand it, it won't be meaningful only if people unsubscribe from the list after stating support or opposition -- but i have no clue even about the list's current size.

If newcomers are aware this list exists, and understand it is the proper place where they can contribute to policy-making (regarding Anti-Abuse), they could be a bit more interactive in further discussions. :-)

I think for most newcomers, it won't be very easy to just subscribe and immediately start writing long messages.

Regards,
Carlos



Regards

Michele

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On 03/04/2019, 12:53, "Carlos Friaças" <cfria...@fccn.pt> wrote:


   Hi Michele, All,

   I had to Google for 'astroturfing'. I learned something today. :-)

   As i see it, the "community" is not a closed group.

   It was repeateadly stated that "consensus" or "rough consensus" is not a
   vote. I think that is clear for everyone.

   Just like a few days ago i wrote that i hoped there wasn't any kind of
   discrimination against portuguese participants, i hope there isn't also
   any kind of discrimination against new participants on this WG.

   I may understand if some people prefer to have less people in the WG, but
   i'm not part of that set.
   While worrying about how we can improve rules/tools against Abuse (that's
   the point of an Anti-Abuse WG, right?), i would also like to see a much
   larger number of people involved!

   If someone has any doubt about if newcomers are real persons, then
   please Google away. :-)

   I met in person most of people that are supporting 2019-03 and also
   those that are opposing it (some of which i even co-authored other
   proposals), since a while back.

   ps: I think i haven't met Sebastien Lahtinen in person since 10y or so, so
   if 2019-03 made him show up on the list, that's another plus :-))

   Best Regards,
   Carlos




   On Wed, 3 Apr 2019, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

   > All
   >
   > Is someone encouraging astroturfing?
   >
   > The number of either new or inactive members of this list who have posted 
one line messages in support of the recent policy discussion has reached insane 
levels
   >
   > Regards
   >
   > Michele
   >
   > --
   > Mr Michele Neylon
   > Blacknight Solutions
   > Hosting, Colocation & Domains
   > https://www.blacknight.com/
   > https://blacknight.blog/
   > Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
   > Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
   > Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
   > Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
   > -------------------------------
   > Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty
   > Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845
   >
   >

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