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Well … exactly the same way it has been already implemented in 2 other RIRs, working and no issues. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 1 dic 2023, a las 14:28, Laura Atkins <la...@wordtothewise.com> escribió: > > > >> On 1 Dec 2023, at 13:22, U.Mutlu <secur...@mutluit.com> wrote: >> >> Laura Atkins wrote on 12/01/23 13:22: >> > None of this will make a company who doesn’t want to deal with abuse >> > complaints deal with abuse complaints. It’s a total waste of resources. >> >> Then RIPE has to sanction that member. > > So we’re back to: how much will it cost to do this and how much will it > actually improve anything? > > Which ignores a lot of big questions like: does RIPE actually have the > authority to sanction folks, who is going to sanction them, what is the > appeals process, how do we get to the sanctioning decision, how are we going > to pay for the inevitable lawsuit, and a bunch of other things. > > It’s clear, though, that this is actually a much older argument. I’m pretty > sure I’m not the first person to ask HOW this will all be implemented. The > fact that someone can’t point me to a FAQ or actual proposal addressing these > questions tells me how seriously this is being taken by the folks who are > proposing it. > > laura > >> >> Example of ignored Abuse Reports regarding email hacking attempts: >> >> You get countless hacking attempts to your email server >> (ie. brute-force attacks trying to login as a mail client >> by using either a valid email login name or some random names; >> they usually fail b/c of wrong password). >> It all gets logged in the emailserver logs together with >> exact timings, so there is enough evidence available for verification. >> >> You send an Abuse Report to the owner of the IP from where >> these hacking attempts occur.But there is no reaction, >> the hacking attemps day and night continue. So, it's not just a one-time >> thing. >> Even if you block that IP, it still generates traffic and eats-up resources >> on the server. >> >> We need an effective solution to stop such abuses. >> RIPE NCC should ask the client to fix the problem and >> formally inform the RIPE NCC about the fix within 7 days. >> >> If the Abuse Reports still get ignored, then RIPE NCC >> should issue a 2nd warning and thereafter then terminate >> or suspend the membership until the issue gets fixed. >> >> >> Laura Atkins wrote on 12/01/23 13:22: >>> None of this will make a company who doesn’t want to deal with abuse >>> complaints deal with abuse complaints. It’s a total waste of resources. >>> >>> laura >>> >>>> On 1 Dec 2023, at 10:53, U.Mutlu <secur...@mutluit.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> For each complaint to RIPE NCC then such an >>>> (automated) email should be sent by the RIPE NCC >>>> to the abuse-c of that member. >>>> This should be the absolute minimum that should be done by the RIPE NCC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Matthias Merkel wrote on 11/30/23 11:47: >>>>> The proposal is to send verification emails to abuse mailboxes and have a >>>>> link >>>>> in them clicked, right? I would have no objection to that. >>>>> >>>>> Is there more that is being proposed in this proposal specifically? >>>>> >>>>> — >>>>> Maria Merkel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change >>>> your subscription options, please visit: >>>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg >>> >>> -- >>> The Delivery Expert >>> >>> Laura Atkins >>> Word to the Wise >>> la...@wordtothewise.com >>> >>> Delivery hints and commentary: http://wordtothewise.com/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > The Delivery Expert > > Laura Atkins > Word to the Wise > la...@wordtothewise.com > > Delivery hints and commentary: http://wordtothewise.com/blog > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/anti-abuse-wg ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. 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