Hi,Luis See my comments in the original text. Regards Igor On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Luis Villarejo <villar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Igor, > > On 2 April 2011 20:21, Igor Chtivelband <igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi,Luis >> 1) Without dividing deeply into design ,the main idea of "translate on the >> fly" implementation can be having asynchronous calls from client to server >> on "space" key strike event (or even on any key strike event, >> > > Unless you plan to overwrite translation results, you may need to wait > until a full stop is found in the text since the translation is not done on > a word per word basis. > > That is exactly what I was thinking about - to overwrite the translation result after every word.For example if you are trying to translate "Happy new year" phrase - the requests from the client to the server will be sent 3 times and after getting the response,the whole result will be refreshed. > depending on the time required to perform the translation and return the >> result) and refresh the result window without performing >> the post-back. Bottom-line - Ajax principle. >> >> 2) I would be glad to implement logging system for web-site,that will >> store the data regarding the localization of users,languages that were >> translated,how much time did it take and even the translated texts.All these >> can be used later for the analysis of typical user-profile and web-site >> improvements. I think that for needs of such logging system DB tables are >> more suitable than writing to the files,in order to fetch and analyze data >> effectively. >> > > The term 'logging' stanading by its own is a little bit ambiguous. Let me > explain what I think about when I use 'logging' in the context of this web > interface: The logging we are thinking on refers to the transformations the > user makes to the text translated to Apertium. Tipically the translation is > not 100% correct and the user makes use of the tools we have integrated in > the web interface to polish the translation. Logging these changes we would > have access to information on what things Apertium does incorrectly and how > should be changed. > Ok,now I understand what you meant. Do you have this "polish" feature deployed to web-site? I am asking because you say "we have integrated" ,but I don't see such option in current version of the web site. > > Best, > Luis > >> >> Best regards >> Igor >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Luis Villarejo <villar...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi Igor, >>> >>> thanks for your interest in the project. >>> >>> The 'translate on the fly' option looks attractive, how do you plan to do >>> that? the other points of the scope you described look good but deeper >>> improvements would also be nice, what about the logging system? do you have >>> any interest in it? any ideas? >>> >>> Best, >>> Luis >>> >>> On 2 April 2011 16:46, Igor Chtivelband <igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hello ,here is my proposal for your judgement >>>> I am not familiar well with the rules and norms of this community,so if >>>> it seems funny...well...you are invited to laugh. >>>> Any feedback will be appreciated and considered by me thoroughly. >>>> >>>> Contact details >>>> >>>> Name: Igor Chtivelband >>>> >>>> Email: igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> Skype: shtivelbus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why am I interested in machine translation? >>>> >>>> In modern world physical state borders became transparent and with help >>>> of WWW people from different parts of the world started to communicate and >>>> to share information , however the fact that this information is available >>>> in various languages often makes the communication and data sharing >>>> difficult. Personally I believe that machine translation can help us with >>>> over taking this barrier. >>>> >>>> Why am I interested in the Appertium project ? >>>> >>>> I loved the simplicity and clearness of Appertium project description, >>>> comparing to other open-source projects it took me less time to >>>> understand what is the main idea of the project, in addition I see the >>>> working demo and it seems good. >>>> >>>> What do I plan to do? >>>> >>>> Project title: Improvements to the Advanced Web Interface >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I would like to improve the user interface, make it more attractive, >>>> intuitive, improve the performance and make it browser-compatible. >>>> >>>> Why do I think I can do it? >>>> >>>> Talking about my skills I would like to divide them in 3 sections >>>> :education, working experience and personal features. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Education: These days I study for European Master on Software >>>> Engineering degree in Blekinge Tekniska Hogskola, Sweden. This >>>> programme is considered an elite programme leading to a double degree given >>>> by 2 different European Universities. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My bachelor degree in Information Systems I received in Technion,Israel >>>> Institute of Technology - leading technological university in Israel. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Working Experience: I worked for 4 years in Intel's development centre >>>> as information systems and software developer. During this period I >>>> obtained a valuable experience both as individual developer and learned >>>> what >>>> is needed to be a good team player. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As part of my job I developed web applications for the company internal >>>> needs and had a chance to learn following relevant for this project >>>> technologies: >>>> >>>> HTML,CSS, Javascript, RIA (Flex,Silverlight),XML/XSL. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Personal Features: I am disciplined (3 years military service) and >>>> ambitious person, thirsty for knowledge and motivated for new challenges. I >>>> never participated in open-source projects and I am interested to fill this >>>> gap. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is my availability during summer? >>>> >>>> Studies of current semester will be ended on June 1st ,while the next >>>> semester I am going to start in Germany in October, thus I have a plenty of >>>> free time to be dedicated to the project. In addition as a master student I >>>> study frontally only few hours in a week ,so I can start to work on the >>>> project as soon as my participation is confirmed. >>>> >>>> What am I planning to do and what are time lines? >>>> >>>> Scope: >>>> >>>> 1. Make the web-site more attractive - work on colors gamma and >>>> composition, controls styles, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> 1. Improve the performance, check the possibility to perform the >>>> translation on the fly (Google style) and not after "translate" click. >>>> 2. Localization. The HTML should be generated according to clients >>>> location (ip based?) and language should be easily switched using >>>> "Language" >>>> drop-down list. >>>> 3. Cross-browser support. Web-site should be tested in 5 leading >>>> browser with option to add a support for mobile browsers. >>>> >>>> What are my proposed time lines? >>>> >>>> Week 1: >>>> >>>> - Final scope definition (together with mentor) >>>> >>>> >>>> - Requirements definition (together with mentor) >>>> >>>> >>>> - Configuration of source code environment (Check-in/check-out >>>> routines) and learning the formal process of adding new code >>>> >>>> Week 2: >>>> >>>> - Requirements prioritization >>>> - Initial design >>>> >>>> Week 3: >>>> >>>> - Design review with mentor >>>> >>>> >>>> - Development of PoC for most important features >>>> >>>> Week 4: >>>> >>>> - Development of PoC for most important features >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Deliverable #1 :design diagrams, working pilot version with partial >>>> features >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Week 5: >>>> >>>> - Detailed design >>>> - Detailed design review with mentor >>>> >>>> Week 6: >>>> >>>> - Coding >>>> >>>> Week 7: >>>> >>>> - Coding >>>> >>>> Week 8: >>>> >>>> - Coding >>>> >>>> >>>> - Testing >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Deliverable #2: 80% of new features are implemented and work mostly >>>> correctly >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Week 9: >>>> >>>> - Closing all gaps in code >>>> >>>> Week 10: >>>> >>>> - Testing >>>> >>>> >>>> - Bug fixing >>>> >>>> Week 11: >>>> >>>> - Testing >>>> >>>> >>>> - Bug fixing >>>> >>>> >>>> - Release planning >>>> >>>> Week 12: >>>> >>>> - Release >>>> - Documentation >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Project completed: The new code was deployed to production. 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