Hi Igor, On 3 April 2011 19:58, Igor Chtivelband <igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,Luis > See my comments in the original text. > Regards > Igor > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Luis Villarejo <villar...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi Igor, >> >> On 2 April 2011 20:21, Igor Chtivelband <igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi,Luis >>> 1) Without dividing deeply into design ,the main idea of "translate on >>> the fly" implementation can be having asynchronous calls from client to >>> server on "space" key strike event (or even on any key strike event, >>> >> >> Unless you plan to overwrite translation results, you may need to wait >> until a full stop is found in the text since the translation is not done on >> a word per word basis. >> >> > That is exactly what I was thinking about - to overwrite the translation > result after every word.For example if you are trying to translate "Happy > new year" phrase - the requests from the client to the server will be sent 3 > times and after getting the response,the whole result will be refreshed. > > >> depending on the time required to perform the translation and return the >>> result) and refresh the result window without performing >>> the post-back. Bottom-line - Ajax principle. >>> >>> 2) I would be glad to implement logging system for web-site,that will >>> store the data regarding the localization of users,languages that were >>> translated,how much time did it take and even the translated texts.All these >>> can be used later for the analysis of typical user-profile and web-site >>> improvements. I think that for needs of such logging system DB tables are >>> more suitable than writing to the files,in order to fetch and analyze data >>> effectively. >>> >> >> The term 'logging' stanading by its own is a little bit ambiguous. Let me >> explain what I think about when I use 'logging' in the context of this web >> interface: The logging we are thinking on refers to the transformations the >> user makes to the text translated to Apertium. Tipically the translation is >> not 100% correct and the user makes use of the tools we have integrated in >> the web interface to polish the translation. Logging these changes we would >> have access to information on what things Apertium does incorrectly and how >> should be changed. >> > > Ok,now I understand what you meant. Do you have this "polish" feature > deployed to web-site? I am asking because you say "we have integrated" ,but > I don't see such option in current version of the web site. > Have a look at: http://apertium.vm.bytemark.co.uk/ApertiumAWI/translate.php and check the 'get logs' button. Luis > >> Best, >> Luis >> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Igor >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Luis Villarejo <villar...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Igor, >>>> >>>> thanks for your interest in the project. >>>> >>>> The 'translate on the fly' option looks attractive, how do you plan to >>>> do that? the other points of the scope you described look good but deeper >>>> improvements would also be nice, what about the logging system? do you have >>>> any interest in it? any ideas? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> On 2 April 2011 16:46, Igor Chtivelband <igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello ,here is my proposal for your judgement >>>>> I am not familiar well with the rules and norms of this community,so if >>>>> it seems funny...well...you are invited to laugh. >>>>> Any feedback will be appreciated and considered by me thoroughly. >>>>> >>>>> Contact details >>>>> >>>>> Name: Igor Chtivelband >>>>> >>>>> Email: igor.chtivelb...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> Skype: shtivelbus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why am I interested in machine translation? >>>>> >>>>> In modern world physical state borders became transparent and with help >>>>> of WWW people from different parts of the world started to communicate and >>>>> to share information , however the fact that this information is available >>>>> in various languages often makes the communication and data sharing >>>>> difficult. Personally I believe that machine translation can help us with >>>>> over taking this barrier. >>>>> >>>>> Why am I interested in the Appertium project ? >>>>> >>>>> I loved the simplicity and clearness of Appertium project description, >>>>> comparing to other open-source projects it took me less time to >>>>> understand what is the main idea of the project, in addition I see >>>>> the working demo and it seems good. >>>>> >>>>> What do I plan to do? >>>>> >>>>> Project title: Improvements to the Advanced Web Interface >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I would like to improve the user interface, make it more attractive, >>>>> intuitive, improve the performance and make it browser-compatible. >>>>> >>>>> Why do I think I can do it? >>>>> >>>>> Talking about my skills I would like to divide them in 3 sections >>>>> :education, working experience and personal features. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Education: These days I study for European Master on Software >>>>> Engineering degree in Blekinge Tekniska Hogskola, Sweden. This >>>>> programme is considered an elite programme leading to a double degree >>>>> given >>>>> by 2 different European Universities. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My bachelor degree in Information Systems I received in Technion,Israel >>>>> Institute of Technology - leading technological university in Israel. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Working Experience: I worked for 4 years in Intel's development centre >>>>> as information systems and software developer. During this period I >>>>> obtained a valuable experience both as individual developer and learned >>>>> what >>>>> is needed to be a good team player. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As part of my job I developed web applications for the company internal >>>>> needs and had a chance to learn following relevant for this project >>>>> technologies: >>>>> >>>>> HTML,CSS, Javascript, RIA (Flex,Silverlight),XML/XSL. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Personal Features: I am disciplined (3 years military service) and >>>>> ambitious person, thirsty for knowledge and motivated for new challenges. >>>>> I >>>>> never participated in open-source projects and I am interested to fill >>>>> this >>>>> gap. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is my availability during summer? >>>>> >>>>> Studies of current semester will be ended on June 1st ,while the next >>>>> semester I am going to start in Germany in October, thus I have a plenty >>>>> of >>>>> free time to be dedicated to the project. In addition as a master student >>>>> I >>>>> study frontally only few hours in a week ,so I can start to work on the >>>>> project as soon as my participation is confirmed. >>>>> >>>>> What am I planning to do and what are time lines? >>>>> >>>>> Scope: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Make the web-site more attractive - work on colors gamma and >>>>> composition, controls styles, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. Improve the performance, check the possibility to perform the >>>>> translation on the fly (Google style) and not after "translate" click. >>>>> 2. Localization. The HTML should be generated according to clients >>>>> location (ip based?) and language should be easily switched using >>>>> "Language" >>>>> drop-down list. >>>>> 3. Cross-browser support. Web-site should be tested in 5 leading >>>>> browser with option to add a support for mobile browsers. >>>>> >>>>> What are my proposed time lines? >>>>> >>>>> Week 1: >>>>> >>>>> - Final scope definition (together with mentor) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Requirements definition (together with mentor) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Configuration of source code environment (Check-in/check-out >>>>> routines) and learning the formal process of adding new code >>>>> >>>>> Week 2: >>>>> >>>>> - Requirements prioritization >>>>> - Initial design >>>>> >>>>> Week 3: >>>>> >>>>> - Design review with mentor >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Development of PoC for most important features >>>>> >>>>> Week 4: >>>>> >>>>> - Development of PoC for most important features >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Deliverable #1 :design diagrams, working pilot version with partial >>>>> features >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Week 5: >>>>> >>>>> - Detailed design >>>>> - Detailed design review with mentor >>>>> >>>>> Week 6: >>>>> >>>>> - Coding >>>>> >>>>> Week 7: >>>>> >>>>> - Coding >>>>> >>>>> Week 8: >>>>> >>>>> - Coding >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Testing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Deliverable #2: 80% of new features are implemented and work mostly >>>>> correctly >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Week 9: >>>>> >>>>> - Closing all gaps in code >>>>> >>>>> Week 10: >>>>> >>>>> - Testing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Bug fixing >>>>> >>>>> Week 11: >>>>> >>>>> - Testing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Bug fixing >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Release planning >>>>> >>>>> Week 12: >>>>> >>>>> - Release >>>>> - Documentation >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Project completed: The new code was deployed to production. 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