I actually think apertium eng-cat may be one of the english-romanic pairs that has received more care. Marc has worked quite a lot on it since he did it during a GSoC, but has continued working on his it adding newly developer modules (perceptron tagger, separable, lexical selection, anaphora resolution,...)
I agree with Mikel that the evaluation is well made. And after having tried the neural a few times, it will probably be hard to get there, in terms if fluency, with Apertium. Translations with Apertium are, usually, more "robotic". -- Xavi Ivars < http://xavi.ivars.me > El dv., 16 d’oct. 2020, 19:35, Tanmai Khanna <khanna.tan...@gmail.com> va escriure: > Not to get too defensive haha but in the talk makes certain statements, > such as "Neural machine translation is more fluent and adequate compared to > RBMT" (not verbatim), and later on a comparison of post-editability, but > doesn't really comment on the status of these tools, i.e. how much data > were the NMT systems trained on, and how much is the English-Catalan system > of Apertium is worked on (which we know is not a lot), so I was just > surprised to see general statements against RBMT. Not saying this as a > member of Apertium but generally evaluations like this should be done > carefully and all the factors should be considered before comparing > multiple systems, without that, it's easy to arrive at false conclusions. > > My two cents :) > *तन्मय खन्ना * > *Tanmai Khanna* > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:27 PM Mikel L. Forcada <m...@dlsi.ua.es> wrote: > >> Dear Apertiumers: >> >> here's a 20-minute talk from Vicent Briva where he evaluates Apertium >> English–Catalan in comparison with the SoftCatalà neural engine and >> Google Translate. >> >> I think the evaluation is quite well made. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiRVhAYpecw >> >> We do not fare too well but, hey, we know this language pair needs love. >> >> All the best, >> >> >> Mikel >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Apertium-stuff mailing list >> Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >> > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >
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