On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Claude Jolicoeur wrote:

> Le 18:50 2015.02.26, vous avez écrit:
>> I am not particularly excited about the advantages of Arctic Apples, 
>> although it will be interesting to see if they eventually play a role in 
>> expanding the shelf life of sliced apples.
> 
> 
> There was a discussion on those apples on another forum recently, and one 
> person had a very interesting argument, which I think makes a lot of sense.
> 
> It would be that these apples are not intended to be sold direct to 
> consumers... In effect, an apple eater wouldn't care less if the apple he 
> eats will stay white or not. And the apple eater will always prefer a non-GMO 
> apple given choice and knowledge (unless the GMO apple is less expensive 
> obviously...). 
> 
> However, restaurants, cafeterias and other McDonald of this world is a 
> totally different story. For these people it makes a lot of sense to have 
> non-browning apples, as they can prepare plates of sliced apples in the 
> morning, that will still look good in the afternoon. And as we all know, no 
> one at McDo will ever ask if what they eat is GMO or irradiated or anything 
> else... Hence, these GMO apples would actually be engineered for this market.
> 
> And by the way, as I touched the subject... Those that are old enough might 
> remember there was quire similar arguments many years ago about irradiated 
> fruits and vegetables. No one talks about this any more! Any of you out there 
> knows if irradiation is still done, and to what extent??? Are there 
> irradiated apples out there on the grocery store shelves?
> 
> Finally, as a cider maker, I am a bit puzzled by these Arctic apples... I 
> assume that if used for cider (I mean hard cider here, but this could also 
> apply to fresh apple juice), they would produce a fully uncolored cider, like 
> true Champagne. While traditional cider may be quite deep in color, mostly if 
> the pomace is left to macerate between milling and pressing. It will be 
> interesting to see if some cider makers will use them to make colorless cider!
> 
> Claude Jolicoeur
> 
> Author, The New Cider Maker's Handbook
> http://www.cjoliprsf.ca/
> http://www.chelseagreen.com/bookstore/item/the_new_cider_makers_handbook/
> 
According to wikipedia, 
"In total, 103 000 tonnes of food products were irradiated on mainland United 
States in 2010. The three types of foods irradiated the most were spices 
(77.7%), fruits and vegetables (14.6%) and meat and poultry (7.77%). 17 953 
tonnes of irradiated fruits and vegetables were exported to the mainland United 
States.[69] Mexico, the United States' state of Hawaii, Thailand, Vietnam and 
India export irradiated produce to the mainland U.S.[69][70][71] Mexico, 
followed by the United States' state of Hawaii, is the largest exporter of 
irradiated produce to the mainland U.S.[69]"

I think most spices are now irradiated, and not a lot of other stuff.

I'm sure you are right that the primary market for arctic apples is fast food, 
etc. But as a consumer, I'd think they would be attractive to anyone bringing 
apple slices or fruit salad to a pot-luck, or to a parent packing apple slices 
in the morning for a child's lunch. I but different apples depending on whether 
I plan to eat them fresh or make pie or apple sauce. Cortland apples already 
have a reputation of being slower to brown, and are commonly purchased for 
fruit salad for that reason. I expect to see the arctic apples marketed to end 
consumers, as well as to food vendors.

Ginda


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