Hi

05 Feb 2001, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 >> SE> I don't want to give it any more time and energy than that.
 >> with ORBS _you_ don't give it any energy.
 >> you simply tell your SMTP server to look up ORBS.
 >> (or you ask your ISP to do that)
 SE> Asking or telling anybody to do anything requires effort and energy.
you send you don't want to give it energy.
Using ORBS doesn't take energy.
Most people don't even know that their ISP uses ORBS ... IMHO it' hardly
possible to use less energy :))

If you don't want to use it, you don't have to do anything.

 SE> What the hell is ORBS anyway?
see http://www.orbs.org

The short answer: ORBS is a validated database of open mail relays and open
mail relay output points, accessable via DNS lookup.

ORBS= Open Relay Behaviour-modification System

 SE> You already know this stuff. To me it's just alphabet soup.
it's simply a database of open relays.

Your SMTP agent (yeah ... that one which you can telnet in ;) will get
incoming mail.
If it uses ORBS, than it looks up the address.
If the mail came from a open relay, it will send the mail back, and tell
the author, that his SMTP server is blacklisted at ORBS.
'Please contact your postamster, and tell him to fix it' ;)

 SE> I don't want to be forced into "upgrading" my software or hardware or
 SE> change my personal methods in order to help solve a problem that I
 SE> don't percieve myself as being afflicted with.
good .. you don't have to.
if your ISP uses ORBS, its fully transparent, and you don't have to do
anything.
If it doesn't use ORBS, its also fully transparent :)

 SE> Maybe you have the time and inclination to fight spam this way.
 SE> I just don't.
You exactly invest 0 seconds !!!
(I guess you will have that amount of time ;)

The mail is rejected AT YOUR ISPs SERVER ....

 SE> Why did I lose my shell access? Because the large corporation that
 SE> now owns my ISP decided that shell access was "an unwarranted
 SE> security risk unjustified by the limited user demand".
:(((((((((((((((((((((( very sad ...

 SE> So the idea that I may not be able to use even Arachne got me going.
you are able ...

Don't forget that authenticated SMTP != ORBS

and that authentication in SMTP is only necesarry if you don't use your
ISPs SMTP server. (otherwise the IP should be checked)

CU, Ricsi

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