On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:36:47 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:59:11 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> (first quoting Sam H.)

>>> Why can't you simply do FTP instead of doing "browser upload"?  The
>>> techies say you can't do it, but they refuse to explain why.

Until a year ago my provider behaved likewise and only HTTP upload was
possible. HTTP upload could not be done with Arachne since you had first
to call a special page with a lot of WIZARDS... java script and all that 
nonsens. This took about 5 minutes extra to log-in with M$ Internet 
Explorer. 

Until a year ago they made FTP possible and FTP is much faster, no bload
at all... and files are smaller. HTTP is a 7 bit system so files, eg
images, must be encoded by the sender and decoded by the provider. Is
MIME the en/decoder; 8 bit => 7 bit ??
Like attachments becomming larger than the original files.

For FTP I use Windows Commander. The commander behaves like the Norton
Commander an gives you a screen divided into a left and a right screen.
Everything you can do with the commander on a local file can now be done
on remote files, like copy, download, upload, delete etc. and very fast.

Why not use Arachne for FTP upload? Well I tried once, being a total
newby on internet matters and Arachne was not that intuitive as has been
stated on this list... not to me anyway ;-)(
Maybe I will give it a new try one of these days...

FTP is fast and uncomplicated but I would not know how to FTP with M$
IE. Windows Commander is very good and easy... perhaps the latest
versions of Norton Commander for DOS also support FTP?? (I use a very
old version.)


>>> Isn't plain old ordinary FTP still the standard and normal and
>>> most universally acceptable method for transferring files?

>> HTTP-upload is on my to-do list for version 1.73 ;-)

> There's the answer. "Browser upload" is done by HTTP. Different
> protocol than FTP. I guess most people just use their browsers and
> the servers in question aren't setup to accept FTP transfers.

As stated: my provider just recently introduced FTP.
 
> You could call this Internet Evolution. (which may not be actual
> progess)

> I don't know if there is an advantage of one over the other for
> file transfers.

FTP is much faster.

Regards, Bastiaan

> Maybe Glenn could elucidate.

> Sam Ewalt
> Croswell, Michigan, USA
> -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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