On 2/27/06, Ian Jeffray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> >
> >>Perhaps then it's time to fork some stuff then.
> >
> >
> > Can we avoid top-posting on this list please.
> 
> Can we avoid CCing everyone on everything if we're also
> using the list? :-)

Interesting issue, as I've missed Ralph's posting my reply :) Not in my spam 
filter either :/ Perhaps it'll turn up at some point :) 
 
> >>Perhaps there even needs to be some kind of fork - a pure version of
> >>ArcEm and a RISC OS enhanced version.
> >
> [snip]
> >    The only reason for a fork in arcem I can see
> > would be a political one, and it would be to the detriment of all.
> 
> I'd agree.  Forking is always terribly bad, and especially in this
> instance I don't see why it's required at all.
> 
> (Example of terribly bad forking - Nettle vs NettleSSH)

Okay, I think Ralph missed my point. I'm not proposing a Mac OS X only fork, 
but rather a way of handling the difference between "pure" emulation of the 
hardware and a version of ArcEm that uses module based shims to cut through to 
functionality embedded in the emulator. All ports should come from the same 
source tree as they currently do.

Not forking is fine, I'm just pointing out though that the active developer 
base at the moment do not agree with Ralph's original statement that we should 
stick to pure emulation of hardware. I'm not the most active developer on the 
project, but in talking to Rob and Peter we all seem to agree that modules that 
shim onto ArcEm (as done already with hostfs support) is the way forward.

I've proposed that we can use configuration options to select whether those are 
compiled or not, and if people are cool with that then there is no need for a 
fork. But the issue is a technical one not a political one - there's two wasy 
of implementing networking (and other things), and we're (I apologise to Rob 
and Peter if I'm mis-representing their feelings) interested in pursuinghte 
Module based approach over a full emulation approach.




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