>Arch is bleeding edge. See About page: http://www.archlinux.org/about.php
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>Note the word bleeding.
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Take it easy ... bleeding don't mean freezing / breaking
the php 5.1 module was not buggy it doesn't WORK AT ALL and as it was in 
current there was no way to downgrade !!!

>Things will break occasionally, and thats just part of the fun of
>using Arch.
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What fun it is to have fun with breaked package in current !!!

> Most major things are put in testing and are there for a
>reasonable amount of time.
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0 seconds in testing for this minor 5.1 php upgrade !!!

> Other things which would seem like a minor
>version upgrade have also caused problems, these cant be forseen by
>the devs, and its impractical to put every minor version into testing.
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And better to have them testing in current ! I don't know but, If you 
want to have quick return on problem on one package use the mailing list 
to say : "hey new package needs testing !! please report quick so I can 
put in current"  instead of that ...

>You dont realise how much more trouble you would have if everything
>went straight to extra/current.
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I realise ! And I've seen ! for about a year I was in testing I mean all 
my package were in ultra bleeding edge testing without problem but for 
about a month since 2.6.14 it becomes messy

>I like bleeding, and most of the time its not bad at all, a minor fix
>or glance at the mailing list, homepage or wiki to fix it.
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I like bleeding too but I don't like people telling me such things !!!!
Testings means test and for the example of 5.1 you take , 5.1 isn't a 
minor update ... more of it, 5.1.1 came closer from php dev team ... !! 
So maybe it needed tests ?! Maybe for just one day !!!
The wiki / docs aren't up to date since all the changes ( hwdetect / hal 
/ 2.6.14 / initscripts ... ) so don't say that !!

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