Hi Kasun/Anjana,

I think what Anjana mentioned and Ishan mentioned are somewhat converge to
same idea (even though they looks different).

What we have discussed and agreed was that we are developing a separate
carbon-component which is used for executing the ntask component. Since we
need a common interface to support both the existing quartz based
synapse-tasks implementation and the ntask component, we have defined the
TaskManager interface.

When ESB is loading the synapse configuration, it will create an object of
type TaskManager according to the Task provider mentioned in the
configuration. This task manager object will delegate the scheduling and
other task related stuff to the respective implementation of the
TaskManager (which can be either QuartzTaskManager or NTaskManager).

@Kasun/Anjana: are we missing something here?


Thanks,
Chanaka


On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <ka...@wso2.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ishan,
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Ishan Jayawardena <is...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Currently, we have developed following design and started to work on it.
>>>
>>> Synapse will have defined the TaskManager, and Task interfaces whose
>>> implementations will provide the concrete tasks and management of those
>>> tasks depending on the scheduler(ie quartz or ntask).
>>> For instance, for inbuilt quartz based task scheduling, we
>>> will refactor and develop a quartz task manager, and a task type while
>>> maintaining the compatibility with existing tasks.
>>> Additionally, we are developing an ntask based task manager.
>>>
>>> We will introduce the following new element to synapse.xml that provides
>>> the class name of the TaskManager implementation so that Synapse can create
>>> a single task manger object when it starts up.
>>> <definitions xmlns="http://ws.apache.org/ns/synapse";>
>>>     <taskExecutor provider="org.apache.synapse.task.NTaskTaskManager"/>
>>> </definitions>
>>>
>>
>> I guess the NTask based task manager implementation should have a WSO2
>> package name, since it is a WSO2 specific implementation, and something you
>> will not ship with Synapse.
>>
>> Exactly.
> I've mentioned this several times in our offline discussions as well..
>  Why are putting a dependency from synapse to a WSO2 component? Again...
> have a look at how we have integrated synapse registry with WSO2 registry.
> This must be implemented as a carbon component.
>
> Cheers,
>> Anjana.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The class name of the Task implementation can be obtained at the time
>>> the user adds a new task through the UI. By using that class name,
>>> Synapse can create the task object, initialize it and hand it over to the
>>> task manager instance to schedule.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ishan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Isuru Udana <isu...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Sagara Gunathunga <sag...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <ka...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to clarify the objective of this task:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Introduce the concept of a Task provider in to ESB. Which means any
>>>>>> existing task (task config) can be ran on the available task provider( 
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> can be ntask, quartz or anything)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Is this means we continue to support Quartz as well ?
>>>>>
>>>> Yes. Idea is to introduce an interface at the synapse level which
>>>> providers can implement. Quartz based implementation is one of the possible
>>>> task provider implementation.
>>>>
>>>>> IMO for simple use cases it's important to continue support for Quartz
>>>>>  while Task server may fit into complex use cases.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - However, the recipes concept is completely transparent at Synapse
>>>>>> level. Simply we don't have to thing about recipes when doing this.
>>>>>> Recipe(or Dish) can be consider as a place where specific logic is 
>>>>>> executed
>>>>>> on top of generic task.
>>>>>> - All the details on sequence deployment, template invocation is not
>>>>>> related to ESB task provider concept.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Ishan Jayawardena <is...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am working on $subject to support scheduled invocation of recipes
>>>>>>> in the ESB. This mainly includes replacing the existing quartz based 
>>>>>>> task
>>>>>>> scheduler with ntask scheduler. The new task type is based on ntask, 
>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>> will be added as a new component in the mediation category. We can use 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> existing task management UI of the ESB to add and manage tasks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In addition to the task schedule information, template name and
>>>>>>> template parameter values, a special property must be added to the task
>>>>>>> parameter list at the time of task creation so that the task can invoke 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> template within its execute method.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The task,
>>>>>>>      reads properties and builds a synapse sequence by inserting the
>>>>>>> recipe template in it,
>>>>>>>      deploys the sequence into synapse,
>>>>>>>      injects a message to the above sequence to invoke the template.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Ishan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sagara Gunathunga
>>>>>
>>>>> Senior Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com
>>>>> V.P Apache Web Services;    http://ws.apache.org/
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> * Software Engineer*
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>
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