Today we had a discussion to review the current implementation of $subject.
We have developed two task providers/managers to manage quartz and ntask
based task types. The correct task manager gets registered according to the
synapse configuration, during the startup. When a user deploys a new task
through the UI, Synapse schedules a task in the registered task manager.

Although each task manager is capable of executing its own task type,
currently none of the task managers can execute tasks of a different type.
Due to this, the new ntask task manager cannot execute existing tasks such
as Synapse MessageInjector. We cannot support this yet without Synapse
having a dependency to ntask component. At the moment we are looking into a
solution to this problem.

At the same time, we are working on the inbound endpoint (VFS) to make it
reuse the same ntask provider that we developed.

Thanks,
Ishan.


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Ishan Jayawardena <is...@wso2.com> wrote:

> Hi Kasun,
> We managed to solve the issue and now we are working on the final stage of
> the development. We will complete this within this week.
> Thanks,
> Ishan.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <ka...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Did you check whether the required packages  are osgi imported properly?
>> On a separate note, what's the ETA of a working deliverable of this?
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously, check if that class is available and where it is referred
>>> from in the code. As I remember, there isn't a package called "ntaskint",
>>> so check where this is coming from.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Anjana.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Ishan Jayawardena <is...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> We developed the quartz task manager and we are currently working on
>>>> the ntask task manager. While developing the task handling component that
>>>> uses ntask, we observed that we cannot schedule a task in it due to a class
>>>> not found error. See the below error message. The ntask component (which is
>>>> used by the component that we are currently writing) cannot load the actual
>>>> task implementation. Does anyone know how to get rid of this?
>>>>
>>>> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: class
>>>> org.wso2.carbon.ntaskint.core.Task
>>>>  at
>>>> org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:501)
>>>>  at
>>>> org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:421)
>>>> at
>>>> org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:412)
>>>>  at
>>>> org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
>>>>  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
>>>> at
>>>> org.wso2.carbon.ntask.core.impl.TaskQuartzJobAdapter.execute(TaskQuartzJobAdapter.java:58)
>>>>  at org.quartz.core.JobRunShell.run(JobRunShell.java:213)
>>>> at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.Executors$RunnableAdapter.call(Executors.java:439)
>>>>  at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask$Sync.innerRun(FutureTask.java:303)
>>>>  at java.util.concurrent.FutureTask.run(FutureTask.java:138)
>>>> at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.runTask(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:895)
>>>>  at
>>>> java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:918)
>>>>  at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:662)
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ishan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>
>>>>> Task Server is actually another server itself. NTask component is the
>>>>> task scheduling component we put to all our Carbon server when we need
>>>>> distributed task scheduling functionality. That component support
>>>>> scheduling tasks in a standalone manner (in a single server), or in a
>>>>> clustered mode for the distributed nature (it does the coordination using
>>>>> Hazelcast), or else, also a "remote" mode where it can interface with an
>>>>> external Task Server.
>>>>>
>>>>> So basically the full required functionality of distributed tasks can
>>>>> be achieved with the ntask component working in the clustered mode, where
>>>>> it identifies all the participating servers in the cluster and do the
>>>>> proper fail-over/load balanced scheduling of scheduled tasks. And they
>>>>> schedule the tasks themselves using their internal Quartz functionality.
>>>>> With TS, all the task triggering is offloaded to TS, where it will be
>>>>> sending HTTP messages to each server saying to execute the tasks. This
>>>>> should happen through the LB as I explained in the earlier mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> So basically Task Server = ntask component + remote tasks component.
>>>>> What any other Carbon server will need is just the ntask component for 
>>>>> full
>>>>> task scheduling functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Anjana.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Paul Fremantle <p...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can someone clarify? I'm lost but I really don't understand why we
>>>>>> are creating any other approach than task server. It is the only approach
>>>>>> that scales clearly. Is our task server code too heavyweight?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5 April 2014 08:47, Chanaka Fernando <chana...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kasun/Anjana,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think what Anjana mentioned and Ishan mentioned are somewhat
>>>>>>> converge to same idea (even though they looks different).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we have discussed and agreed was that we are developing a
>>>>>>> separate carbon-component which is used for executing the ntask 
>>>>>>> component.
>>>>>>> Since we need a common interface to support both the existing quartz 
>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>> synapse-tasks implementation and the ntask component, we have defined 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> TaskManager interface.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When ESB is loading the synapse configuration, it will create an
>>>>>>> object of type TaskManager according to the Task provider mentioned in 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> configuration. This task manager object will delegate the scheduling and
>>>>>>> other task related stuff to the respective implementation of the
>>>>>>> TaskManager (which can be either QuartzTaskManager or NTaskManager).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Kasun/Anjana: are we missing something here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Chanaka
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <ka...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ishan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Ishan Jayawardena 
>>>>>>>>> <is...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Currently, we have developed following design and started to work
>>>>>>>>>> on it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Synapse will have defined the TaskManager, and Task interfaces
>>>>>>>>>> whose implementations will provide the concrete tasks and management 
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> those tasks depending on the scheduler(ie quartz or ntask).
>>>>>>>>>> For instance, for inbuilt quartz based task scheduling, we
>>>>>>>>>> will refactor and develop a quartz task manager, and a task type 
>>>>>>>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> maintaining the compatibility with existing tasks.
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, we are developing an ntask based task manager.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We will introduce the following new element to synapse.xml that
>>>>>>>>>> provides the class name of the TaskManager implementation so that 
>>>>>>>>>> Synapse
>>>>>>>>>> can create a single task manger object when it starts up.
>>>>>>>>>> <definitions xmlns="http://ws.apache.org/ns/synapse";>
>>>>>>>>>>     <taskExecutor
>>>>>>>>>> provider="org.apache.synapse.task.NTaskTaskManager"/>
>>>>>>>>>> </definitions>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess the NTask based task manager implementation should have a
>>>>>>>>> WSO2 package name, since it is a WSO2 specific implementation, and
>>>>>>>>> something you will not ship with Synapse.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>>>>> I've mentioned this several times in our offline discussions as
>>>>>>>> well..  Why are putting a dependency from synapse to a WSO2 component?
>>>>>>>> Again... have a look at how we have integrated synapse registry with 
>>>>>>>> WSO2
>>>>>>>> registry. This must be implemented as a carbon component.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Anjana.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The class name of the Task implementation can be obtained at the
>>>>>>>>>> time the user adds a new task through the UI. By using that
>>>>>>>>>> class name, Synapse can create the task object, initialize it and 
>>>>>>>>>> hand it
>>>>>>>>>> over to the task manager instance to schedule.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Ishan.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Isuru Udana <isu...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Sagara Gunathunga <
>>>>>>>>>>> sag...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Kasun Indrasiri <
>>>>>>>>>>>> ka...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to clarify the objective of this task:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Introduce the concept of a Task provider in to ESB. Which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means any existing task (task config) can be ran on the available 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> task
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider( this can be ntask, quartz or anything)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Is this means we continue to support Quartz as well ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Idea is to introduce an interface at the synapse level
>>>>>>>>>>> which providers can implement. Quartz based implementation is one 
>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>> possible task provider implementation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO for simple use cases it's important to continue support for
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quartz  while Task server may fit into complex use cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - However, the recipes concept is completely transparent at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Synapse level. Simply we don't have to thing about recipes when 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recipe(or Dish) can be consider as a place where specific logic 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is executed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on top of generic task.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - All the details on sequence deployment, template invocation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not related to ESB task provider concept.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Ishan Jayawardena <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am working on $subject to support scheduled invocation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recipes in the ESB. This mainly includes replacing the existing 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quartz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based task scheduler with ntask scheduler. The new task type is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ntask, and it will be added as a new component in the mediation 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> category.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can use the existing task management UI of the ESB to add and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tasks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to the task schedule information, template name
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and template parameter values, a special property must be added 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the task
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parameter list at the time of task creation so that the task can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invoke the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template within its execute method.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The task,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      reads properties and builds a synapse sequence by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inserting the recipe template in it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      deploys the sequence into synapse,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      injects a message to the above sequence to invoke the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> template.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ishan Jayawardena
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kasun Indrasiri
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Architect
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sagara Gunathunga
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Technical Lead; WSO2, Inc.;  http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> V.P Apache Web Services;    http://ws.apache.org/
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog ;  http://ssagara.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Isuru Udana*
>>>>>>>>>>>  Senior
>>>>>>>>>>> * Software Engineer*
>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>> email: isu...@wso2.com cell: +94 77 3791887
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ishan Jayawardena
>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Anjana Fernando*
>>>>>>>>> Technical Lead
>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc. | http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>> lean . enterprise . middleware
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Kasun Indrasiri
>>>>>>>> Software Architect
>>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cell: +94 77 556 5206
>>>>>>>> Blog : http://kasunpanorama.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Chanaka Fernando
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Technical Lead
>>>>>>> WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com
>>>>>>> lean.enterprise.middleware
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mobile: +94 773337238
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Paul Fremantle
>>>>>> CTO and Co-Founder, WSO2
>>>>>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair, Apache Member
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Ishan Jayawardena
>>>> Senior Software Engineer
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